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Autotracker requires an active internet connection. Make sure you have installed the required manual update referred to in #announcements! All autotracker related support discussion (questions, help requests, etc.) should go here. Useful information is in the pinned messages. When reporting issues, make sure to be specific about what emulator/console/etc. is being used, as well as the details of what you saw, as specifically as possible. For emulator players, any Lua script errors you see in your emulator are very useful information.
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TarThoron 2021-03-04 15:44
Autotracking is currently only available for SNES and some GB/GBA games. I don't know if there are any plans to expand to PC games, but I would guess no. Autotracking works by reading specific memory addresses in the console/emulator. I'm guessing that developing it for PC games would require tailoring the core program for each individual game.
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EmoSaru 2021-03-04 17:56
Direct ram inspection PC autotracking, for lack of a better description, makes EmoTracker effectively a virus or malware.
17:56
So I won’t be doing that.
17:57
That said, some changes I am considering for autotracker in the future may make it more possible for other people to build that.
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duncathan_salt 2021-03-04 23:02
is there some technical reason livesplit has no issues with the ram inspection for its autosplitters, or is that just a moral objection on your part?
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not to suggest that the latter would be unreasonable or anything, just curious
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EmoSaru 2021-03-04 23:30
It’s more the latter. I’m not interested in distributing a scriptable platform for modifying the memory pages for arbitrary processes on PCs. Beyond that, people already have issues with over-aggressive antivirus - the last thing I want to do is give the antivirus databases an actual good reason to flag the app.
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Magus_Oscuro 2021-03-05 05:43
Maybe there is a way to get your app off the hook? Is the LUA script allowed to do things like read an arbitrary file or communicate on a socket? If so then someone else's program could do the dirty work. Just a thought, not sure if it's a good or bad.
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MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2021-03-05 09:06
@Magus_Oscuro
someone else’s program
This doesn’t fix the issue, it just skirts it.
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Magus_Oscuro 2021-03-05 09:11
That is true. And I wouldn't expect a binary blob to be allowed in a pack anyway.
09:12
My thought was more along the lines of: "you can go grab something from this other github for extra features for this pack" kind of thing.
09:15
Although I think the pack ecosystem is perhaps the best thing about EmoTracker so that may be kind of a dumb idea.
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EmoSaru 2021-03-05 09:55
I have a plan, which I’m not going to get into right now, but it does involve supporting a limited form of communication with external tools.
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Magus_Oscuro 2021-03-05 11:05
That is exciting!
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airmanon 2021-03-07 11:38
for the purposes of autotracking set up, do I follow the instructions for snes9x-rr even though I'm using snes9x 1.60?
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airmanon
for the purposes of autotracking set up, do I follow the instructions for snes9x-rr even though I'm using snes9x 1.60?
MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2021-03-07 11:39
It still needs to be snes9x-rr to have lua support.
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airmanon 2021-03-07 11:39
oh
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MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge
It still needs to be snes9x-rr to have lua support.
airmanon 2021-03-07 11:40
So does that mean that snes9x 1.60 is not supported yet? Hopefully I can still use my ROM
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MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2021-03-07 11:42
Snes9x as a base application doesn’t support autotracking. Snes9x-rr does. There is a Snes9x-rr 1.60 floating around somewhere.
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airmanon 2021-03-07 11:43
ah. Well, I'll see if I can get it to work with 1.57. Maybe it'll prompt me to update to 1.60 before I can go too far with it
11:43
Thanks
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TarThoron 2021-03-07 11:44
Be sure to get Snes9x-rr 1.60 32bit, not 64bit.
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The -rr (re-record) branch is the only one that runs lua scripts. No version of snes9x without lua will autotrack.
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krelbel 2021-03-07 11:45
also make sure it comes with the DLLs you need for autotracking, iirc some versions on the snes9x-rr github are missing them for some reason (at least they were last november, maybe that's been fixed since then). snes9x-rr-1.60-win32 from https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_ej-pwWtCAHYXIrvs5Hro16A1s9Hi3Jz should work fine)
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airmanon 2021-03-07 11:48
Thanks
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TarThoron 2021-03-07 11:55
Good news is save files are compatible across snes9x versions. If it doesn't move over on its own, you can make a savestate in the old emulator, then load the .srm in the new one.
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It’s more the latter. I’m not interested in distributing a scriptable platform for modifying the memory pages for arbitrary processes on PCs. Beyond that, people already have issues with over-aggressive antivirus - the last thing I want to do is give the antivirus databases an actual good reason to flag the app.
duncathan_salt 2021-03-08 21:59
cool, thanks for the reply. looking forward to seeing how your plan plays out!
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mattw891 2021-03-15 13:54
has anyone else had issues with smz3 auto-trackign lately? it'll mark off the first few items I get, and then stop updating. it was previously working just fine, it just recently started this behavior
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Dorkmaster Flek 2021-03-15 14:15
That doesn't sound pack-specific. Is the little robot icon changing colour at all?
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Dorkmaster Flek
That doesn't sound pack-specific. Is the little robot icon changing colour at all?
mattw891 2021-03-15 14:15
the cyan/blue color
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Dorkmaster Flek 2021-03-15 14:17
That should be working properly then. Gonna need a lot more info, what are you playing on (console/emulator) what version etc.
14:17
Assuming the pack and your EmoTracker is up to date
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mattw891 2021-03-15 14:20
i'm running snes9x 1.6, EmoTracker says it and the package are up to date.
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trying to think of anything else that would be useful? looks like i do need to run windows updates
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Dorkmaster Flek 2021-03-15 14:30
And you're using the regular variant, not the bIzhawk one I presume?
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If the robot is blue and it was working but now it's not, I got nothing.
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mattw891 2021-03-15 14:35
i reloaded it, and then collected 4 items, and now it's working fine so...we'll see if it lasts. I should at least do these updates and make sure nothing stupid is running while i'm trying to play
14:35
thx for the help!
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NotSid 2021-03-15 14:50
Does anyone know if SMRPG Randomizer has autotracker support?
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strizer86 2021-03-15 15:31
It does not. Cynas and I chatted about him adding it recently but after all the other recent updates and release of 2.0 he put it on the backburner. Any pack with autotracker support will (i.e. should) show it in the pack manager with the little robot icon like this
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NotSid 2021-03-15 16:10
Ah I see
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Dorkmaster Flek 2021-03-16 10:06
The main issue with that is that the USB support on SD2SNES/FXPAK flash carts is disabled when special chip games are running, such as SMRPG which uses the SA-1 chip. I don't know much about the firmware for that, but my understanding is there's simply not enough space on the FPGA to do both at once. (edited)
10:06
This is the reason Crowd Control only supports SMRPG vanilla via emulator, not console.
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strizer86 2021-03-16 10:14
Right, I do remember him mentioning it being an issue but didn't recall the details. That makes total sense though. I can still see doing it for emulator players but can also understand it's a lot of work for what probably feels like only half the result you want in the end.
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NotSid 2021-03-16 12:48
There's a crowd control thing for SMRPG? 🤔
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Dorkmaster Flek 2021-03-16 12:54
Yes, but only for the vanilla game and only on emulator.
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NotSid 2021-03-16 14:40
Interesting
14:41
Well when I look it up it says the randomizer works, but is buggy
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Dorkmaster Flek 2021-03-16 20:01
The randomizer is not officially supported. Some things work but other things break, it's a use at your own risk thing.
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But this is not autotracking related, so if you want to know more best ask in the CC discord.
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NotSid 2021-03-16 20:52
True
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Spacehawk 2021-03-19 12:43
what emulators does the autotracker work with?
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jat2980 2021-03-19 12:45
For nes Bizhawk, for snes Bizhawk and snes-9x but specially the rr edition that supports lua scripting (edited)
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Spacehawk 2021-03-19 12:46
alright, i do have pizhawk, how to i turn on autotracking?
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jat2980 2021-03-19 12:47
What game are you playing?
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Spacehawk 2021-03-19 12:47
ALTtP
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jat2980 2021-03-19 12:47
https://discord.com/channels/386961931988369418/549484120263229441/549484436815872042
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Spacehawk 2021-03-19 12:57
sorry i didn't say thanks, want to finish instructions first, thanks
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Lewd_Reploid 2021-03-19 17:28
I’m trying to connect the emotracker to snes9x and I keep getting this error message. And I have snes9x-rr-1.55 multitroid already. What directory should I place the lua51?
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Also I do have bizhawk but I’m not able to get it working
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TarThoron 2021-03-19 17:36
The version I linked in #general-support is v1.60, several versions ahead of v1.55
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crazdgamer 2021-03-19 17:38
good evening! I've not done autotracking before. Trying to make it work with smz3, using snes1.60-rr, but the robot is yellow. can't seem to figure out what I'm missing. edit: nevermind, read the pinned messages, was using the wrong lua file. oops lol (edited)
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Lewd_Reploid 2021-03-19 17:43
@TarThoron thank you I’ll dl that version
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Lewd_Reploid 2021-03-19 17:59
Got it working, thank you
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XandoCalrissian 2021-03-22 08:28
I had bizhawk autotracking working- the robot was cyan, I tested it by getting an item and all was well. Then I restarted after also connecting crowd control, and now the robot won't change colors or even start tracking. Are the two incompatible or did I overlook a step somewhere?
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I'm trying to run it with SMZ3R, if that matters.
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TarThoron 2021-03-22 08:41
What version of Bizhawk? What core? It's generally easier to get qusb2snes, run the luabridge.lua that comes with that, then tell EmoTracker and CC to act like you have an sd2snes.
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EmoSaru 2021-03-22 10:52
Crowd Control conflicts with autotracking if you’re using the emulator Lua connector. If you need to do both at the same time, you’ll need to use the qusb2snes solution mentioned above.
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TKtato 2021-03-22 16:00
So I'm running mulitworld with a friend in Zeltroid and the metroid sided of the auto tracking isn't updating. Any idea on how to fix this? I'm running it in Bizhawk (edited)
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TarThoron 2021-03-22 16:07
Using the bizhawk specific package variant and connector.lua? Or just connecting through qusb? (edited)
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TKtato 2021-03-22 16:40
connector. lua
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TarThoron 2021-03-22 16:44
Double check that you're using the bizhawk specific ones. Both package and script. Though it's better to just connect through qusb. Run luabridge.lua, and set EmoTracker to SNES>sd2snes. (edited)
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TKtato 2021-03-22 16:54
okay
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Shedros 2021-03-24 03:03
Hello there, I can't find any information on how to connect emotracker to snex9x. Did I miss a page on the website?
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EmoSaru 2021-03-24 03:30
There are pinned messages in this channel providing information on how to set it up for various emulators.
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Shedros 2021-03-24 13:29
@EmoSaru Thanks, found it. But BizHawk 2.6.1 isn't supported currently. Right? The script wont load on the new version with a hint about the version
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EmoSaru 2021-03-24 13:33
Correct, use a supported version of Bizhawk.
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TarThoron 2021-03-24 13:33
If you're using connector.lua, only specific versions of Bizhawk are supported. If you're using qusb2snes as a bridge, you can use any.
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Shedros 2021-03-24 13:35
Okay, then I'll look into this. Thanks 🙂
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Both of you 🙂
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Shedros 2021-03-24 14:32
Works fine with BizHawk 2.3.1. But if you change the hal.lua script and add 2.6.1 to the version check. It works fine with 2.6.1 too. It just pops up a few deprecated warnings
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But I only tested a few items in ALTTP
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Shedros 2021-03-24 15:15
Feel free to use it, works with BizHawk 2.6.1
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Same here, works with BizHawk 2.6.3, feel free to use it
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Seem that only this pull requests is relevant https://github.com/TASVideos/BizHawk/pull/2575
Refactor DisplaySurface locking as used by ApiHawk (and Lua) by Yos...
As before, gui.draw* draw to the "emu" surface without needing gui.DrawNew("emu"). There's a new function gui.use_surface to replace gui.DrawNew(&quo...
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But it is not backward compatible 😉
15:19
That could be implemented by checking the version < 2.6 and using the removed calls for older versions
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EmoSaru 2021-03-24 15:54
My plan is to remove all of this shit and put it in pack devs hands eventually, so I’m not planning on updating the connector scripts. Feel free to do this kind of stuff, but don’t expect me or the discord at large to provide support for any issues that come up while using it.
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Shedros 2021-03-25 03:19
Thanks for the information. Just wanted to help a bit 😉
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Shedros 2021-03-25 14:02
FYI: I just submitted my fix to CrowdControl. So they can use it to and support newer versions
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EmoSaru 2021-03-25 17:24
It's TBD whether I take any more updates from them, but thanks for the heads up.
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EmoSaru
There are pinned messages in this channel providing information on how to set it up for various emulators.
Rasha 2021-03-26 21:48
How do we access the pinned messages?
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EmoSaru 2021-03-26 21:51
that's a core discord feature
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jat2980 2021-03-26 21:51
Slightly more hidden in mobile
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Rasha 2021-03-26 22:06
Thank you!
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IronNash 2021-03-30 16:09
autotracker stopped working for me after updating retroarch to 1.9.1
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TarThoron 2021-03-30 16:12
I don't know a ton about RA, but to check the basics: Are you using the same core as before? Are network commands enabled? Is the qusb bridge active?
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IronNash 2021-03-30 17:33
Yes for every question, but qusb shows me the following message: No game is loaded or core does not support memmory read, maybe it is just a problem with RA
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IronNash
Yes for every question, but qusb shows me the following message: No game is loaded or core does not support memmory read, maybe it is just a problem with RA
Otakaru 2021-03-31 09:10
I just started having this issue as well. I had messed something up with retroarch and was having trouble getting settings back to where I needed them. I was on version 1.8.something but I was getting the same message as you are. updated to 1.9.1 last night and i'm getting the same message. also downloaded the latest version of qusb2snes today and no change
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tried multiple cores as well. different versions of bsnes and snes9x
09:13
only other change on my system was a windows update saturday evening. have you recently updated windows? just trying to see if there's a common thread
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IronNash 2021-03-31 09:13
@Otakaru I rolled back to 1.9 and it works with the same setup, even the same config file, problem is with 1.9.1
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Otakaru 2021-03-31 09:13
i'll give that a shot
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IronNash 2021-03-31 09:15
I’d like to be able to use RA 1.9.1 because it brought a lot of good changes for Mac users and I regularly play with a friend that uses Mac
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Otakaru 2021-03-31 09:32
yeah rolling back to 1.9.0 resolved for me as well. thanks for letting me know that @IronNash
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EmoSaru 2021-03-31 10:04
Just a reminder that retroarch is not directly supported by emotracker. If there are issues, they’re best discussed with the qusb2snes people.
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Otakaru 2021-03-31 10:29
Thanks will keep it in mind if I run into trouble again.
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NetherRelm 2021-04-01 21:19
i just want basic auto tracking for smz3 to work, never had this problem until today
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NetherRelm 2021-04-01 21:35
even with no rom loaded, when i try to use the bizhawk connector.lua i'm getting an error msg regarding crowd control, what gives?
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TarThoron 2021-04-01 21:38
Official support for Bizhawk requires one of the CC compliant versions listed. If you scroll up a bit, Shedros posted some updated luas to use other versions. You can also use qusb as a bridge between any version of Bizhawk and EmoTracker.
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Dorkmaster Flek 2021-04-02 06:07
If you're using Qusb2snes as a bridge with another emulator, you'll want to select "SD2SNES" in EmoTracker as the connector type because it's emulating that.
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tehMorag 2021-04-04 09:53
There a hacky way to get Autotracking to work on LAN/Network? Using a 2 PC setup for streaming Wanted to use the tracking on the Stream PC vs Game PC
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EmoSaru 2021-04-04 13:08
If you are playing on emulator, it is theoretically possible but finicky. If you are on console via eg Sd2snes, then no. You can, however, send the broadcast view to your streaming PC by using NDI.
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tehMorag 2021-04-04 20:44
Was thinking about the NDI route and it could work (I use it for overlay work already). Was hoping I could just leave the emulator full screen (Only 1 monitor on the game PC)
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TarThoron 2021-04-04 21:21
If you're autotracking, you should barely have to click anything, so EmoTracker can be in the background on the gaming PC, and just exit fullscreen momentarily when you actually have to click something.
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tehMorag 2021-04-04 22:00
fair point!
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Shandrunn 2021-04-05 07:45
Is there some way to override the autotracker? Suppose for example I see the LTTPR library item is useless and I mark it as collected so it doesn't show up anymore. When the autotracker updates, it's set back to not collected. Is there some way to say I don't want it, I won't get it, stop showing it?
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Spleebie 2021-04-05 08:23
If you right-click the map square instead of marking off the chest in the popup it should remember
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tehMorag 2021-04-05 10:35
Thanks again for the NDI reminder and that it will be auto tracked. Ended up sizing up emo tracker to be the same size as bizhawk when I alttab to check the map.
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WHITE.muumi 2021-04-07 07:46
how do i set up autotracking on Oot or MM randomizer?
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WHITE.muumi
how do i set up autotracking on Oot or MM randomizer?
tehMorag 2021-04-07 07:55
Doesnt look like any of the packages support it Needs to have the Bot symbol to know it works or not. (pic from the ALttP packages) (edited)
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WHITE.muumi 2021-04-07 07:59
alright thx
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PolychromeVirus 2021-04-07 08:12
im p sure emo said theres nothing stopping n64 autotracking from working but its not officially supported yet?
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tehMorag 2021-04-07 09:42
Not sure which N64 emulator has LUA scripting (maybe Mupen64Plus?). But also the devs/makers of the packages also hooking into it.
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ArloMathis 2021-04-07 10:47
Do we have word on an actual attempts-to-be-accurate 64 emu that isn't powered by duct tape, plugins, jank, and hope?
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VillainousWolf 2021-04-07 19:06
I am using Bizhawk 2.3.1 and EmoTracker 2.3.8.11 with ALTTPR, not sure what updated but all of a sudden my autotracker is not working. Lua script window shows this error: Warning: Attempted read 8319952 outside memory domain size of 131072 in readbyterange() NLua.Exceptions.LuaScriptException: .\hal.lua:50: bad argument #1 to 'char' (number expected, got nil)
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I am using Bizhawk 2.3.1 and EmoTracker 2.3.8.11 with ALTTPR, not sure what updated but all of a sudden my autotracker is not working. Lua script window shows this error: Warning: Attempted read 8319952 outside memory domain size of 131072 in readbyterange() NLua.Exceptions.LuaScriptException: .\hal.lua:50: bad argument #1 to 'char' (number expected, got nil)
MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2021-04-07 19:08
https://discord.com/channels/386961931988369418/549484120263229441/549484436815872042
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MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge
https://discord.com/channels/386961931988369418/549484120263229441/549484436815872042
VillainousWolf 2021-04-07 19:09
at some point i changed my core from bsnes. thanks!
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tehMorag 2021-04-08 01:11
Does auto tracker have issues with dungeons? At the end of my Keysanity run, only Dungeons were lit up. And Ganon Tower was still red. (Lake Hylia was missed on my part haha)
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Seed used https://alttpr.com/en/h/4Avpwd2oMn
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EmoSaru 2021-04-08 01:24
GT is red because you didn’t mark which dungeons were crystals and pendants, and my pack does not autotrack chests in dungeons by design. (edited)
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EmoSaru
GT is red because you didn’t mark which dungeons were crystals and pendants, and my pack does not autotrack chests in dungeons by design. (edited)
tehMorag 2021-04-08 05:54
Ahh my bad! Will keep that in mind next time. Thanks 👍
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Not sure which N64 emulator has LUA scripting (maybe Mupen64Plus?). But also the devs/makers of the packages also hooking into it.
Dual [CDT UTC-5] (TWWR) 2021-04-09 07:59
I think ModLoader 64 does (with modded mupen as it's back end), but I'm not entirely sure
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PolychromeVirus 2021-04-09 08:22
bizhawk
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i dont think modloader has any crazy scripting stuff. except for, well, mods
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afaik bizhawk is the only major emulator with LUA support, which is why it's required for multi worlds if you're not loading the actual multiworld mod
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Dual [CDT UTC-5] (TWWR) 2021-04-09 08:28
Though what is to stop someone from making an OOT or MM mod for LUA autotracking support? Maybe that's pipe dream stuff. I think Dolphin is capable of LUA scripting but from what I've seen of that core, it's very limited at this time.
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tehMorag 2021-04-09 08:34
TIL Bizhawk does N64 as well (have only used it for SNES) Just looked at the list of everything it can do. No idea why is this emulator is not more widely used or talked about. (edited)
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PolychromeVirus 2021-04-09 08:35
it's not speedrun legal because it's made for TASing and has a lot of tools
08:35
but yeah it does uh, most things
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the minish cap rando suggests using it using the mgba core even
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it's not speedrun legal because it's made for TASing and has a lot of tools
MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2021-04-09 10:18
For which games and on which leaderboard system?
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PolychromeVirus 2021-04-09 10:19
ive only run sm64 and oot both on speedrun.com, they only allow pj64 (at least for sm64, id need to check for oot) and original hardware, but this is diverting from the purpose of this channel
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Zero Katayama 2021-04-15 19:52
I need help with getting the auto tracker working for minish cap
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MuffinJets 2021-04-15 19:53
What part are you struggling with?
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Zero Katayama 2021-04-15 19:53
Pretty much everything sadly
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MuffinJets 2021-04-15 19:54
Have you followed the steps outlined in the pinned message? (edited)
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https://discord.com/channels/386961931988369418/549484120263229441/549484436815872042
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This message ^
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Zero Katayama 2021-04-15 19:57
Ive tried something like that and now bizhawk wont close at all
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MuffinJets 2021-04-15 19:57
I need more information What part of the process is Bizhawk not responding at
19:57
How far did you get
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Zero Katayama 2021-04-15 19:59
I got as far as enabling the lua thing in the advanced customize option and now it wont let me close the app at all
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MuffinJets 2021-04-15 19:59
The setting labelled Lua+LuaInterface?
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Zero Katayama 2021-04-15 19:59
Yeah that one
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MuffinJets 2021-04-15 20:03
If Bizhawk is freezing, I unfortunately can't help you as I myself don't know how the program works, I only know how to troubleshoot the process (edited)
20:03
That being said I do recommend starting from a completely fresh install
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Find a version of Bizhawk 2.3.x on TasVideos or that link, follow the directions and give as much information as you can if/when something goes wrong
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Zero Katayama 2021-04-15 20:06
ok i just did everything the pinned message said and it says my config file is corrupted
20:06
for bizhawk
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Zero Katayama 2021-04-15 20:17
I will just do everything by hand i suppose
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MuffinJets
What part are you struggling with?
MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2021-04-15 20:51
Does Z:MC even have support?
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MuffinJets 2021-04-15 20:51
Yes
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MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2021-04-15 20:51
Ahh, ok then. Carry on. 🧡
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Zero Katayama 2021-04-15 21:13
What version of Bizhawk do I need anyway?
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TarThoron 2021-04-15 21:20
2.3.0, 2.3.1, and 2.4.2 are currently supported.
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MiguelMyers 2021-04-16 13:24
so, I'm rather confused on something, as I'm trying to set up the autotracker, but I can't find connector.lua anywhere. It just straight up isn't there, so I'm wondering how to fix it so that the file is actually downloaded
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nevermind, managed to fix the problem
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SileoNeco 2021-04-19 18:20
Pretty sure I didn't see the answer in the FAQ, but feel free to slap me if it is. In just installed the tracker, and connected it to snes9x without any problems. Then I installed the SMZ3 pack by Dorkmaster Flex, and now it refuses to connect even if I switch back to the default pack. Any ideas? More specifically, I get the following error message in my lua script window: "Failed to open socket: connection refused" (edited)
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MuffinJets 2021-04-19 19:56
Try restarting the connection on both ends
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SileoNeco 2021-04-19 20:15
I've shut down and reopened both programs entirely, but still get the same error
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TarThoron 2021-04-19 20:23
Which emulator/hardware? Is the robot head red or yellow?
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SileoNeco 2021-04-20 02:19
It was white, because I forgot to turn it back on... and now I feel really dumb, but thank you.
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Dorkmaster Flek 2021-04-20 05:35
Yeah switching packs/variants or resetting the current pack will stop autotracking, you just need to start it again when ready. (edited)
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Wutanatur 2021-04-24 12:23
I'm just checking here for a first try at a solution : I'm currently playing Alttp + SM rando and the tracker is correctly tracking the Alttp item but the SM ones ? Has this happened to you ?
12:29
nvm mind that one
12:29
Did not have the right "tracker installed" 😄
12:29
keep on the good work 😄
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j.p. 2021-04-24 16:54
Does someone have a moment to help me get the LttP autotracker working? What documentation I've found is pretty handwavey and references things that either I can't find or no longer exist.
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I'm using retroarch with the bsnes-mercury core, and have network commands enabled.
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I don't see a way to load the lua script though, and some documentation I've found mentions enabling a device of some sort.
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I do know that the network command interface is up since Windows Firewall prompted me to allow connections to it.
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TarThoron 2021-04-24 16:57
RA doesn't use lua. Qusb2snes has a seperate protocol for it. Note that RA 1.9.1 can't communicate with qusb. Use 1.9.0 or earlier.
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This should hopefully be fixed for 1.9.2
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j.p. 2021-04-24 16:59
Ah, okay. Is there something I need in EmoTracker for Qusb2snes? I see options for lua and sd2snes.
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TarThoron 2021-04-24 16:59
Set it to sd2snes
16:59
Full instructions are in the pins.
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j.p. 2021-04-24 17:00
Ah, thanks I didn't notice there were pins. Looks like I am coincidentally using 1.9.0 already so good there.
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j.p. 2021-04-24 17:08
Groovy, that did the trick! Thanks!
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Matheux 2021-04-26 16:19
is there a list of all the games that the auto-tracker can support ?
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strizer86 2021-04-26 16:36
Packs in the manager with the little robot face seen on the far right have auto tracking
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In terms of an actual list, I don't know if anyone would go to the effort to keep one as it would constantly change with releases and updates
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Matheux 2021-04-26 16:55
oh ok, I'll just try them then, thanks ! 🙂
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YeOldFartGamer 2021-04-29 20:11
Question, has anyone had issues trying to get the connector working with bizhawk? Every time I try to load up the lua script it screws up my bizhawk
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TarThoron 2021-04-29 21:07
Bizhawk instructions are in the pins. They need to be followed exactly. And if you're using connector.lua, you need Bizhawk version 2.3.0, 2.3.1, or 2.4.2. (edited)
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YeOldFartGamer 2021-04-29 21:32
Thanks, got it to work
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Cheezinator 2021-04-30 06:45
I'm looking to hook up the FF6WC pack with auto tracking for Snes9x-rr, any place I can find instructions for this?
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strizer86 2021-04-30 06:47
https://discord.com/channels/386961931988369418/549484120263229441/558379221609873422
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Cheezinator 2021-04-30 06:48
thank you strizer! hope you're doing well
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strizer86 2021-04-30 06:49
No worries. Rainy here, but Friday so that's a win. Hope you enjoy FF6WC
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thank you strizer! hope you're doing well
jat2980 2021-04-30 09:35
👋 let me know if you have any questions as I just did this for Castlevania and FFR
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strizer86 2021-05-02 01:20
I think they meant from a player perspective as the FF6WC pack already supports autotracking last I checked (edited)
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rooslugs 2021-05-03 00:39
Re: the #general-support question, we have 1 instance of emulation and one of sd2snes
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Toonic 2021-05-04 10:54
So, Right now I'm using emotracker with snes9x-rr for ALTTP. The problem I'm having is, it seems the Tracker likes to stop auto-tracking once in a while and I'm not 100% sure as to why. It will always say "Connection established" and never drops. Anyone know a fix? Or possibly something I did wrong?
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Anguirel 2021-05-04 11:27
Does it stop tracking entirely, or just get really slow/laggy to update? Next time it happens, check the developer console for error messages. I'm wondering if it's the same issue I reported in https://discord.com/channels/386961931988369418/386970120616148994/827538402559000596 Gear icon -> Advanced -> Developer Console
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Does it stop tracking entirely, or just get really slow/laggy to update? Next time it happens, check the developer console for error messages. I'm wondering if it's the same issue I reported in https://discord.com/channels/386961931988369418/386970120616148994/827538402559000596 Gear icon -> Advanced -> Developer Console
Toonic 2021-05-04 11:27
Mixture of the two, TBH.
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But I'll check next time it happens.
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TheMisterKyle 2021-05-04 11:56
Hi all! I'm certain I'm dumb, but
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Any advice is appreciate ❤️
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Anguirel 2021-05-04 11:58
Are you using the 64 bit version of the emulator? You need the 32 bit version for autotracking.
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TheMisterKyle 2021-05-04 11:59
Ooooh. Noted. I shall find out.
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NO_ONE_LOVES_ME 2021-05-05 09:06
i had a general question about the autotracker for alttp randomizer
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2 rather
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is there something im missing in the dungeon? or is this just a glitch and i just check it off manually?
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the other question i had was about the colors of places. i played through the minish cap randomizer twice now with the autotracker and i think i figured it out but alltp is confusing
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NO_ONE_LOVES_ME 2021-05-05 09:08
for refernce ig
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CandyCrystal 2021-05-05 09:09
wait arent the colors the same meaning for any game?
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https://discord.com/channels/386961931988369418/422107004560080896/422107380403404800 id assume so based on this
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wait arent the colors the same meaning for any game?
NO_ONE_LOVES_ME 2021-05-05 09:15
i wasnt 100% sure and i shouldve checked before asking, thats on me💀
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is there something im missing in the dungeon? or is this just a glitch and i just check it off manually?
NO_ONE_LOVES_ME 2021-05-05 09:15
and can anyone answer this?
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@CandyCrystal ty btw
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CandyCrystal 2021-05-05 09:15
np
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i dont know the game, but if you defeated moldorm and got an item from it id assume you could mark it off
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Spleebie 2021-05-05 09:16
Dungeon locations are not autotracked in the official ALTTP pack (edited)
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See this pin https://discord.com/channels/386961931988369418/549484120263229441/574963196860039168
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CandyCrystal 2021-05-05 09:20
wait what kind of anticheating would affect dungeon autotracking but not overworld autotracking? (edited)
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Spleebie 2021-05-05 09:20
autotracking dungeon items is against current alttpr racing rules
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NO_ONE_LOVES_ME 2021-05-05 09:20
again i shouldve read💀
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thanks yall
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CandyCrystal 2021-05-05 09:20
oh ok
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Spleebie 2021-05-05 09:22
Codemann has a pack that will autotrack them unless you turn on race mode, but Emo has chosen not to implement a race mode flag in her pack so it's always in race mode and therefore can't track them. Check the package manager in the app if you want to try his out
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Codemann has a pack that will autotrack them unless you turn on race mode, but Emo has chosen not to implement a race mode flag in her pack so it's always in race mode and therefore can't track them. Check the package manager in the app if you want to try his out
NO_ONE_LOVES_ME 2021-05-05 09:29
i got it working, again thank you :))
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Yu 2021-05-05 15:19
Random question, I don't exactly know how it works or how hard it would be but I was curious if there was intention to eventually add item autotracking to the crosskey pack(made by Ninban and fylion). I was wondering cause I didn't really find a tracker that's "perfect" for how I use it for entrance, at the moment, the best I found, was using that tracker(with all location and allow chest manipulation) click my locations to see logics and having a second tracker opened with keysanity autotrack and I just track the items manually in the crosskey one.
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Random question, I don't exactly know how it works or how hard it would be but I was curious if there was intention to eventually add item autotracking to the crosskey pack(made by Ninban and fylion). I was wondering cause I didn't really find a tracker that's "perfect" for how I use it for entrance, at the moment, the best I found, was using that tracker(with all location and allow chest manipulation) click my locations to see logics and having a second tracker opened with keysanity autotrack and I just track the items manually in the crosskey one.
krelbel 2021-05-05 17:39
i can't speak for what ninban or fylion have in mind for their tracker's future development, but i can recommend the codetracker pack for emotracker if you're looking for a tracker within the emotracker framework that handles this well
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imo the three best publicly available autotrackers for crosskeys are the codetracker pack for emotracker, opentracker, and dunkatracker. dunkatracker seems more popular than the other two among the crosskeys crowd (but I personally find its unique small key autotracking behavior a hard dealbreaker for any keysanity modes)
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Yu 2021-05-05 17:50
Oh I DLed every module for ALTTP in Emotracker, I never saw Codetracker had an ER, I'm blind, thanks a lot, I'll give it a shot
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Also question, they say Dungeons Items auto track, wasn't that not permitted ?
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TarThoron 2021-05-05 18:06
It's banned for racing. Since there's no good way to police it, Emo's pack just doesn't do it. Others do.
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ArloMathis 2021-05-05 19:07
Does anyone have a link to the explanation (if it exists) as to why it's banned for races? I can't say it makes sense to me.
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TarThoron 2021-05-05 19:22
You would probably have to dig through #racing-council to find the actual discussion. Here's the announcement.
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krelbel 2021-05-05 19:27
there's also https://docs.google.com/document/d/19eHGA3h3MP9miODmpaO2fyBvcHtsRBfaVrmWqNzCaEQ/edit# which goes into more detail
ALTTPR Race-legal Auto-tracker Specification
The Official ALTTPR Race-legal Auto-tracker Specification Version 1.1.1 - October 22nd, 2020 Preface This document guides auto-tracker developers on what is and is not acceptable, in terms of race-legal auto-tracking for ALTTPR, as outlined by the ALTTPR Racing Council. This specification doc co...
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Dudude Dude 2021-05-05 19:27
I believe it's mostly because for ALTTP's non-keysanity modes it isn't as simple as just marking off every chest you collect, since most tracker designs for those modes involve only checking off chests when they contain a non-dungeon specific item. So tracking that (unlike other locations) requires a little bit more effort by the person tracking, so I think that's why the rule disallows those specific locations while allowing other locations to be auto tracked.
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krelbel 2021-05-05 19:29
yeah, the general thinking is that counting non-dungeon items so you know when you can skip the remaining chests in a dungeon is still considered a skill with enough value that autotracking that specific count would cheapen the experience / provide too much advantage against people who don't autotrack
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EmoSaru 2021-05-05 20:07
That said, they just recently said that auto-go-mode indicators are fine, which in my opinion is approximately (checks notes) dumb as fuck. So we’ll see how things evolve. (edited)
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Yu 2021-05-05 20:11
I decided to go with Codetracker, I also tried Dunka in the process, I was wondering if there was something similar than Dunka in Codetracker like a rightclick fonction to add a flag, without typing notes on my entrance ? I can add a note but it only shows a pen and paper and doesn't say what it is, unless I either hold click on it then click on the pen and paper or I click on the pen and paper if I pin it.
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Also, what's an auto-go-mode indicator
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when you have all items required it tells you you're in go mode ?
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sorry for both questions, found an answer in the read me of codetracker and I searched for auto-go-mode and found it too.
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MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2021-05-05 21:49
@Yu The pen and paper is what you get in EmoTracker. Yes. An indicator to let you know that you're in Go Mode, which is strange since it's all relative to the player's ability.
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yeah, the general thinking is that counting non-dungeon items so you know when you can skip the remaining chests in a dungeon is still considered a skill with enough value that autotracking that specific count would cheapen the experience / provide too much advantage against people who don't autotrack
ArloMathis 2021-05-06 03:32
This is exactly the explanation I was looking for, thank you. As a complete novice and having lurked here a bit, I hadn't realized the value there.
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deserteagle417 2021-05-08 18:23
auto-go-mode KEKW
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Serious 2021-05-11 07:05
Hay, im having a problem with auto tracking via snes9x. It normaly always worked fine but since yesterday it just stops tracking/working mid run.
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EmoSaru 2021-05-11 12:02
There have been no changes on the EmoTracker side, so unfortunately I'm not sure what would be going on there. You have the option of trying qusb2snes's lua bridge, and using EmoTracker's SD2SNES option, to see if that avoids the issue for you.
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TriHecaton 2021-05-14 18:06
Hello hello. I read the Pinned Message about AutoTracker in Bizhawk. Any possibilities to get the newer Bizhawk to work with the EmotTrackers autotrack? What i grabbed from the info it only works on 2.3 versions of Bizhawk and not newer ones, or am i wrong there?
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Hello hello. I read the Pinned Message about AutoTracker in Bizhawk. Any possibilities to get the newer Bizhawk to work with the EmotTrackers autotrack? What i grabbed from the info it only works on 2.3 versions of Bizhawk and not newer ones, or am i wrong there?
MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2021-05-14 18:22
It currently uses a third-party connector to interface and it has the limitation of version number.
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TarThoron 2021-05-14 19:14
If you use qusb as a bridge, you can use any Bizhawk.
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Sandy420 2021-05-18 12:27
Hello guys, can someone help me resolve an autotracking issue? I´m using emotracker with snes9x-rr Usually after first 5-7 chests the tracker starts lagging behind and and marks only about half my checks
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Hello guys, can someone help me resolve an autotracking issue? I´m using emotracker with snes9x-rr Usually after first 5-7 chests the tracker starts lagging behind and and marks only about half my checks
krelbel 2021-05-18 13:23
I've had that issue with the native LUA bridge autotracking before many times, and the issue went away for me completely by switching to qusb2snes/sd2snes autotracking instead.
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Sandy420 2021-05-18 13:25
alright ill give that a try, how do i set that up for snes9x?
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krelbel 2021-05-18 13:27
Download and run qusb2snes, set it to enable Lua tracking, load it's luabridge.lua in your emulator instead of the connector.lua you've been running, and set emotracker to sd2snes autotracking instead of lua
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karmicRetribution 2021-05-19 17:33
okay, I know this isn't exactly the right place to ask, but I downloaded snes9x-rr specifically to use with emotracker's autotracker function.... and I CANNOT figure out how to turn this off
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kalarse 2021-05-19 17:34
there should be an hotkey to not display that
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i don't remember which
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TarThoron 2021-05-19 17:34
, or .
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karmicRetribution 2021-05-19 17:34
oh thank you
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so very much
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Bimbus The Wise 2021-05-23 21:37
im having trouble even seeing an option to auto track could i get some help?
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TarThoron 2021-05-23 22:34
It's only available for SNES and GB/GBA games, plus it looks like a FF1 package for NES has it. Packages that support it will have this little guy in the package manager, and it will also be in the bottom right of the main Emotracker window when the package is loaded.
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Bimbus The Wise 2021-05-23 22:50
ah ok thanks
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tehMorag 2021-05-24 11:54
Thanks to looking up help from past post here. Got MultiWorld, AutoTracker, & CrowdControl all working at the same time 👍 QUSB is good stuff
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Bimbus The Wise 2021-05-24 17:28
are there any auto trackers available for oot? im not even seeing any auto trackers except for lltp
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strizer86 2021-05-24 17:33
No there are none for OoT. There are multiple randos aside from LttP that have autotracking though.
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Dorkmaster Flek 2021-05-24 17:49
SNES and GBA are the only platforms with autotracking support AFAIU.
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MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2021-05-24 18:00
IIRC N64 has some support.
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Bimbus The Wise 2021-05-24 18:00
mmm thats a bummer any good ones thatll kinda guide me where to go at least?
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also sorry for all the questions im just brand new to this
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TarThoron 2021-05-24 18:11
FF1R has autotracking. Pretty sure that's run on the NES version, not GBA. For manual OoT tracking, based on the feedback I've seen here, Hamsda's pack is the one you want to go with. Seems to have support for most every mode.
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Bimbus The Wise 2021-05-24 18:12
great thanks very much
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FF1R has autotracking. Pretty sure that's run on the NES version, not GBA. For manual OoT tracking, based on the feedback I've seen here, Hamsda's pack is the one you want to go with. Seems to have support for most every mode.
jat2980 2021-05-24 18:13
Yes it does and it runs on the NES version and only works with bizhawk (edited)
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are there any auto trackers available for oot? im not even seeing any auto trackers except for lltp
MuffinJets 2021-05-24 19:57
There are autotrackers for OoT, just not with EmoTracker
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There are autotrackers for OoT, just not with EmoTracker
Bimbus The Wise 2021-05-24 19:58
such as?
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TarThoron 2021-05-24 19:58
https://wiki.ootrandomizer.com/index.php?title=Trackers
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Bimbus The Wise 2021-05-24 19:58
ah yea barinades straight doesnt connect thats the first i tired
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MuffinJets 2021-05-24 19:59
There's also one made by ALinkToTheFuture, I don't have a link to it though
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Bimbus The Wise 2021-05-24 19:59
ah ok
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ill see if i can get barinades workin fs i just dont really know why it wont
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EmoSaru 2021-05-24 20:42
Just FYI, this is not the place to discuss other trackers. Keep that in the game discord.
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Bimbus The Wise 2021-05-25 14:46
oh fs sorry (edited)
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Nekrazero 2021-05-26 10:17
Running tracker with snes9x, I run the connector.lua script and it shows connection established, when I turn on auto-tracking in the tracker application the robot goes red. Game is running.
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game is SMZ3
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Nekrazero 2021-05-26 10:26
the emulator version is 1.55 multitroid edition because I am using it for multiworld if that helps
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EmoSaru 2021-05-26 10:27
If you are running the connector.Lua before starting autotracking and it’s connecting, then you are running something else using connectorlib. Either you have another instance of the tracker running with autotracking on, or you’re trying to run crowdcontrol at the same time, which is not supported on the Lua connector. (edited)
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Nekrazero 2021-05-26 10:28
I'll check running tasks, No crowd control
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closed all active script windows, restarted qusb2snes, set for snes9x-rr/bizhawk, relaunched emotracker, started script again, sows connection established, but robot is still red. Not using crowd control.
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TarThoron 2021-05-26 10:35
Set EmoTracker to read sd2snes instead of lua. It will read qusb2snes.
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Only run the luabridge.lua from qusb.
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Nekrazero 2021-05-26 10:37
that worked
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so does qusb2snes essentially trick the tracker into thinking its the flashcart?
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TarThoron 2021-05-26 10:38
Yes. Qusb is basically emulating the usb2snes firmware that sd2snes uses to communicate with the internet. (edited)
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Nekrazero 2021-05-26 10:39
that makes sense
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thanks for the help
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MeleeWizard 2021-05-28 14:20
Theoretical question: How badly would things break if auto-tracking was combined with BizHawk Shuffler?
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EmoSaru 2021-05-28 14:27
very
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MeleeWizard 2021-05-28 15:30
Follow-up: Would playing multiple seeds of the same game vs. seeds from different games make any difference in that assessment?
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MuffinJets 2021-05-28 15:31
I feel like if you're able to mentally keep track of all that autotracking is below you lmao
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MeleeWizard 2021-05-28 15:33
Well, the auto-tracking would make it so I wouldn't have to mentally keep track of at least some of it.
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Follow-up: Would playing multiple seeds of the same game vs. seeds from different games make any difference in that assessment?
EmoSaru 2021-05-28 15:33
It would be better, but it depends on the game, and whether or not you have manually manipulated any locations. Since we don't autotrack dungeon chests and rewards in e.g. LTTP, that stuff would not update when the seed switched.
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So it's incomplete, and not consistent.
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[SAFT] Paddy | Safti 2021-05-28 19:05
how is it possible to use autotracking for alttp+Super Metroid Randomizer? ANd is it possible in Multiworld? (edited)
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Lurch9229 2021-05-28 19:12
yes and yes, open the smz3 lua multibridge then use the emotracker connector in a new lua window
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TarThoron 2021-05-28 23:05
Use the sd2snes protocol so you only have to run one lua script for multiworld. Connector.lua is fine for solo play.
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Zero0484 2021-05-30 18:42
okay im learning how to set up the auto tracking...but my robot is yellow and im not sure why
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sorry for super metriod rando
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metroid even lol i cant spell
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MeleeWizard 2021-05-30 19:30
Did you check the pins?
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goldenspacedragon 2021-06-02 09:54
I'm guessing if a package does not support autotracking, it will never support autotracking unitl someone steps up and does it themselves? (edited)
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TarThoron 2021-06-02 10:31
Depends. Autotracking isn't currently possible on all consoles, only NES (Bizhawk only), SNES, and GB/A. If the game is from another console, it might come in the future. If it's from one of those, then yes, someone has to step up.
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goldenspacedragon 2021-06-02 10:35
PC, like for AM2R is my thought.
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TarThoron 2021-06-02 10:50
The last time autotracking for PC was brought up.
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goldenspacedragon 2021-06-02 10:50
Im guessing it's not great
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PolychromeVirus 2021-06-02 16:00
pc autotracking as autotracking works now is unlikely to ever be implmeneted. but it sounds like emo has some ideas that don't rely on direct ram inspection, so it's uncertain
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EmoSaru 2021-06-02 17:35
To clarify, my plans are all ones that make it Not My Problem. It’s going to be disruptive to existing packs and platform autotracking support, but long term, it will allow for developers to use external programs to allow autotracking to be implemented for arbitrary platforms/games without having to be blocked by me.
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Things have been very busy IRL, so progress has been slow, but it will happen at some point this year.
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goldenspacedragon 2021-06-02 18:20
All righty. Sounds fair.
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MeleeWizard 2021-06-04 16:35
I decided to experiment with my Autotracker + Bizhawk Shuffle idea, and it turns out to be a moot point. The two components each require specific version(s) of Bizhawk, and there appears to be no overlap between them.
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CrypticNerd 2021-06-05 17:19
Does anyone know why i keep getting this error when trying to setup the auto tracker.. error loading module 'socket.core' from file '.\socket.dll': The specified module could not be found.
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CrypticNerd 2021-06-05 17:27
Figured it out 🙂
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the1truepickaxe 2021-06-10 07:17
Tried to run connector.lua using SNES9X RR
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I recieved an error:
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error loading module 'socket.core' from file '.\socket.dll': %1 is not a valid Win32 application.
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TarThoron 2021-06-10 07:29
Use the 32-bit snes9x-rr, not the 64-bit.
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the1truepickaxe 2021-06-10 07:54
I did that, and it fixed the problem
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YeOldFartGamer 2021-06-16 19:53
How do you use emotracker with retroarch?
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PolychromeVirus 2021-06-16 19:55
it looks like it's in the pins
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https://discord.com/channels/386961931988369418/549484120263229441/696492551359692803
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YeOldFartGamer 2021-06-16 20:03
Thanks, got it working
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PolychromeVirus 2021-06-16 20:14
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doctorearworm 2021-06-19 14:32
I'm using an fxpak pro into a super nt, playing alttpr, connecting to a PC running Windows 10. I followed the instructions in the pins, but my robot is yellow - any common known issues/errors i might have made to check?
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TarThoron 2021-06-19 14:47
You should be able to use http://usb2snes.com/tester/index.html to make sure your fxpak is properly communicating with the internet.
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doctorearworm 2021-06-19 14:53
okay that seems to be the problem, it's not connecting to the internet. maybe i need to redo the firmware update?
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wait nm i got it working
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(i'm an idiot who forgot to unzip/open the usb2snes application)
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thank you!
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𝓢𝓸𝓾𝓵𝓰𝓲𝓿𝓮𝓻831 2021-06-23 21:30
Hey so I already explored Eastern Palace, hyrule castle, and the desert palace, got all the chests and such, but for some reason my autotracker keeps picking it up like I haven't done either every time I load back into the game.
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EmoSaru 2021-06-23 22:13
From the pins. https://discord.com/channels/386961931988369418/549484120263229441/574963196860039168
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Save your progress in the tracker if you're playing across multiple sessions.
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𝓢𝓸𝓾𝓵𝓰𝓲𝓿𝓮𝓻831 2021-06-23 22:13
Ah okay. Thanks!
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terry_pegula 2021-06-25 21:56
Hi all, I apologize in advance for asking this, because I'm sure it gets asked 100 times a day.... but I read the FAQ and do not see...
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how to enable AutoTracker for ALTTPR in higan emulator?
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terry_pegula 2021-06-25 22:07
nvm I just set it up with the snes9x emulator instead. ty
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Dorkmaster Flek 2021-06-26 08:20
higan/bsnes is not directly supported. You can use Bizhawk via the bsnes core, and snes9x as you found. It's possibly to do other emulators/devices via Qusb2snes but that's supported entirely through the usb2snes bridge via that program and not EmoTracker itself (you would select SD2SNES in EmoTracker as it emulates that protocol). (edited)
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MysticLion 2021-06-26 17:43
Hey. So I just downloaded Emotracker. And... installing the basic support for ALttP, doesn't seem to work. Bar fills up. Then it goes empty and I can click install again I did like 5 times, same result.
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MeleeWizard 2021-06-26 17:51
#faq
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MysticLion 2021-06-26 18:01
Yeah solved it.
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MysticLion 2021-06-26 18:33
Okay so it sort of works now... but it doesn't seem to mark off locations automatically.
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(for ALttP).
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TarThoron 2021-06-26 18:34
Have you turned on autotracking?
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MysticLion 2021-06-26 18:34
it auto tracks items.
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But not map locations.
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maybe now I just told it to show all locations
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And yeah. It works now.
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kittenlover 2021-06-26 23:18
hi, this feels like a really silly question but is there a reason the robot icon isn't appearing on the bottom right? I have the latest version of emotracker and can confirm I am on a package which supports autotracking
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specifically I'm using the emotracker official alttp package
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EmoSaru 2021-06-26 23:29
Make sure you install the update that I published a little while ago tonight. The app should prompt you to update on startup
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hi, this feels like a really silly question but is there a reason the robot icon isn't appearing on the bottom right? I have the latest version of emotracker and can confirm I am on a package which supports autotracking
Doc Bio 2021-06-26 23:30
im dealing with the same issue, after i updated my version, the robot head disappeared
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EmoSaru 2021-06-26 23:31
Hmm, okay, looks like an issue on my end. Hold please.
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kittenlover 2021-06-26 23:32
ah okay, I was worried I missed something incredibly obvious 😅
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Alaszun 2021-06-26 23:33
Yeah confirmed having the same issue.
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Using codemann's pack, not yours, so I'm assuming it's the underlying tracker not the package (but you probably already know this)
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kittenlover 2021-06-26 23:36
yeah I did try with several different packages
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プリンス 2021-06-27 00:01
Confirming this issue, I came here to take a look/report as well.
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EmoSaru 2021-06-27 00:01
It's a bug, I'm looking into it. No need for further confirmations. 🙂
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EmoSaru 2021-06-27 00:43
This should now be resolved. Restart the tracker and apply the latest update.
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Bard's Gambit 2021-06-27 00:46
our robo pal is back
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MysticLion 2021-06-27 03:17
will the auto tracker register I checked a location if I don't pick up the item? Like, if I don't bother picking up rupees/bombs etc?
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TarThoron 2021-06-27 05:22
No. You can manually right click the location to mark it checked. If you left click it, it will turn itself back on. (edited)
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MysticLion 2021-06-27 05:35
So I have to pick it up...
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sk00pula 2021-06-27 10:31
To auto, yes. The thing is designed around racing rules but honestly the right click to impose an "ignore sram" exception is super easy to do on your next screen transition or whatever
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GhostStache 2021-07-05 16:40
So I followed all the directions to get the autotracker working with ALttP/Super Metroid randomizer, and the lua script connects and the robot icon is blue, but it just doesn't seem to work? Like I'll collect things or open chests and nothing happens on the tracker.
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For reference I'm running it with BizHawk
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TarThoron 2021-07-05 16:43
And you're using the Bizhawk variant of the pack/lua script?
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GhostStache 2021-07-05 16:43
yep
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TarThoron 2021-07-05 16:44
Odd. What version of Bizhawk?
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And which core?
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GhostStache 2021-07-05 16:45
bsnes, version 2.6.2
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Also tried it on 2.4
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(which was the version I got from the directions I found)
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TarThoron 2021-07-05 16:47
Hmm. Has support been added for 2.6.2? Or are you using qusb as a bridge?
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GhostStache 2021-07-05 16:48
I didn't do anything special to get it to work on 2.6.2 it just..worked. Which now that I'm reading further seems like a weird thing
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TarThoron 2021-07-05 16:51
AFAIK, only 2.3.0, 2.3.1, and 2.4.2 are currently supported, unless you bridge with qusb.
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GhostStache 2021-07-05 16:51
Interesting. I just tried it with 2.3.1 and got this error:
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"Warning: Attempted read 8257537 outside memory domain size of 131072 in readbyterange() NLua.Exceptions.LuaScriptException: .\hal.lua:50: bad argument #1 to 'char' (number expected, got nil)"
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TarThoron 2021-07-05 16:54
Nlua errors usually mean it's using nlua instead of lua-luainterface, but I've seen them with the proper protocol loaded.
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GhostStache 2021-07-05 16:56
I have lua-luainterface loaded
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TarThoron 2021-07-05 16:58
I do strongly recommend using qusb if you want Bizhawk for your emulator. You can use any Bizhawk. Set luainterface and load your core. Open qusb, right click the tray icon, and set to read lua bridge. In Bizhawk, run luabridge.lua that comes with qusb. Set EmoTracker to read sd2snes.
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GhostStache 2021-07-05 16:59
Thanks for the advice, I'll try that and get back to you!
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TarThoron 2021-07-05 17:00
https://github.com/Skarsnik/QUsb2snes/releases
Releases · Skarsnik/QUsb2snes
A Qt based webserver for usb2snes. USERS go to usb2snes.com - Skarsnik/QUsb2snes
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GhostStache 2021-07-05 17:10
That did the trick with 2.6.2! Thank you so much! Worked like a charm
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GhostStache 2021-07-06 08:47
Hello hello! Back with more questions. Decided to try getting the tracker working on Retroarch since Bizhawk would crash every 15-20 minutes and Retroarch has been stable. I've got the tracker connected through QUsb2snes and it seems to work just fine for a regular Super Metroid randomizer, but when playing the ALttP+SM randomizer it doesn't seem to work. Connector Icon is Blue but it won't actually track anything. Only error message I can find is in the QUsb2snes menu, next to retroarch it says "Timeout on one of the command", but it says that regardless of if I'm playing just Super Metroid or the combo randomizer.
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TarThoron 2021-07-06 09:17
Qusb has had trouble talking to RA versions 1.9.1+. V0.7.20 was supposed to fix it, but there's still bugs.
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GhostStache 2021-07-06 09:18
So should I download 1.9.0?
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TarThoron 2021-07-06 09:21
Seems to be the most stable for RA support. There's also this new thing from the ALttPO devs, which can be used in place of qusb. Reported to work with any RA except 1.9.1 https://github.com/alttpo/sni
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GhostStache 2021-07-06 09:21
Oh interesting. I'll give these a shot
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GhostStache 2021-07-06 09:48
Okay, 1.9.0 won't connect to the tracker at all through usb2snes. Using SNI didn't work on 1.9.6, but did connect to the tracker on 1.9.0. However, it faces the same problem as before where despite it being connected, the tracker doesn't not update.
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Rhuidan 2021-07-09 17:29
I had just started a crosskeys ladder race, cyan robot, was tracking fine for the first 10 mins, then the tracking just stops. It happens maybe every 3/4 seeds? Is there a known thing that causes this?
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Nicholas Steel 2021-07-09 18:02
Did you configure the emulator to not pause when it is not in focus? If emulation pauses it'll drop the connection (it should reconnect when focus is restored and emulation resumes but that may be intermittently failing) (edited)
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Rhuidan 2021-07-10 09:12
I will look into that, thank you
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goldenspacedragon 2021-07-13 19:05
Fusion has autotracking now. How hard would it be to do the same for ZM?
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UltiNaruto 2021-07-14 03:07
if ZM has a ram page like Fusion it shouldn't take long to get the needed addresses (if it's items only) (edited)
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goldenspacedragon 2021-07-14 03:27
It’s only items and beating Chozo Ghost, which unlocks fully powered suit. Said unlock is a flag, and it should be easy to tell EmoTracker that said flag has been hit. If you look at the tracker for ZM, you’ll see what I mean
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goldenspacedragon 2021-07-14 03:58
And the map is just there alongside it rather than needing its own tracker. I think....
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goldenspacedragon 2021-07-14 05:10
I need help to connect Bizhawk to EmoTracker
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One sec, can get help from a friend (edited)
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goldenspacedragon 2021-07-14 05:33
Man Bizhawk is picky Need specifically 2.31 or 2.4 to use Autotracking That's so weird
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goldenspacedragon 2021-07-14 05:41
And I didn't even need it in the end
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Zorimyll 2021-07-14 15:15
it's me or since the last windows update we just cant use the autotracker ? he just stay white and don't want to start the lua
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EmoSaru 2021-07-14 15:49
I have not had any issues, but you may want to check your network firewall settings and allow an exclusion for EmoTracker
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Zorimyll 2021-07-15 04:35
I changed nothing and now it's working 🤷‍♂️
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goldenspacedragon 2021-07-18 08:06
Bizhawk's being wonky and considering the connector to EmoTracker as Crowd Control. What do I do.
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TarThoron 2021-07-18 08:19
Bizhawk autotracking only works with versions that are also compatible with CC.
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goldenspacedragon 2021-07-18 11:03
okay that makes sense but it said it required 2.6.2 and i was on 2.6.2
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EmoSaru 2021-07-18 11:33
EmoTracker currently uses the same emulator connectivity setup as CrowdControl. That's why it says CrowdControl in the script output.
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goldenspacedragon 2021-07-18 11:41
okay then good to know
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DrogoGyslain 2021-07-23 11:19
Hey everyone im trying to solve this autotracker issue with the socket.dll
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has anyone run into this in the past?
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i see some mentions to a socket.core issue in the history but noone with a solution that I see
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i see a few mentions to the different versions... 32 bit and 64 bit, im trying to troubleshoot there
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GOT IT
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Kai!!! 2021-07-24 18:37
I'm trying to get an autotracker working for a Super Metroid Randomizer but anytime I try to do it, this is showed.
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I'm using BizHawk.
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Nvm
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Video I watched never said the first step-
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TarThoron 2021-07-24 18:41
Wrong core?
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Kai!!! 2021-07-24 18:42
Yeah
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It was
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Blutspitze 2021-07-26 12:27
question for Bizhawk + CC + LTTPR - I have the Lua console connection active for emo (yellow bot), but when I try to launch I get this error. Anyone seen it before?
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when I start in CC, then open emo, I can't get the yellow bot, and clicking "start" for the tracker doesn't work
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it works with just the Bizhawk launch, but not CC
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Blutspitze 2021-07-26 12:52
nevermind; after digging deeper it looks like the two are mutually exclusive. I'll have to either do it manually or get the SNES-rr/SD2SNES (edited)
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Nikoda 2021-07-26 19:34
Hey guys ! Just looking for a little assistance I cant seem to get auto tracking to work with my OOT Randomizer does Emo Tracker support this?
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MuffinJets 2021-07-26 19:36
No, EmoTracker only has autotracking for packs that have the little blue robot on the package manager There are OoT autotrackers, but not through EmoTracker
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Nikoda 2021-07-26 19:36
oh dang ! thank you for this ! I see the robots now ! thank you
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Yuurei 2021-07-26 20:03
Hi! I'm trying to figure out auto-tracking for ALTTPR and I'm not sure what I've missed but I can only manage a yellow robot icon
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I'm using Bizhawk (BSNES core) and started the connector.lua in the Bizhawk lua console. Am I on the right track?
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TarThoron 2021-07-26 20:25
Which version of Bizhawk? Did you read the instructions in the pins? (edited)
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Yuurei 2021-07-26 20:41
most recent, and I'll check those.
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Okay, I was missing several things! Thanks for the pointer, I should've checked there first 😅
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TarThoron 2021-07-26 20:52
Autotracking only works on versions of Bizhawk that also work with Crowd Control. As far as I can tell, 2.6.1 is the latest with CC support, not 2.6.2.
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Yuurei 2021-07-26 20:53
ah, that makes sense
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TarThoron 2021-07-26 20:54
(if you use a bridge like QUSB2SNES or SNI you can use any Bizhawk, as those bridges emulate sd2snes)
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Yuurei 2021-07-26 20:55
oh that's cool
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JuBer 2021-07-28 06:06
I'm sure this has been already asked/reported but didn't see it in the pinned message: I play on SNES 9x1.60 and often have the issue when playing ALTTPR that the autotracking simply stops at some point in the seed. It simply doesn't update the map or items anymore, unless I right click and select stop, then select start again, after which it then reupdates everything. This has the drawback of updating the map once again and any location I would have manually clicked off (for example a bomb pack on mushroom spot I won't pick up) will then show up again in green. Any idea how to minimize/solve this issue? It happens regularly (I'd almost say at least once a seed) and sometimes several time during a single seed. (edited)
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Anguirel 2021-07-28 07:18
That sounds like an issue I had with another pack. Next time it happens, open up the developer console (gear icon -> advanced -> developer console). If it's flooded with red text and mentions an index being out of bounds, then it might be related to https://discord.com/channels/386961931988369418/386970120616148994/827538402559000596. The workaround I've found is to us QUsb2Snes instead of connector.lua.
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I'm sure this has been already asked/reported but didn't see it in the pinned message: I play on SNES 9x1.60 and often have the issue when playing ALTTPR that the autotracking simply stops at some point in the seed. It simply doesn't update the map or items anymore, unless I right click and select stop, then select start again, after which it then reupdates everything. This has the drawback of updating the map once again and any location I would have manually clicked off (for example a bomb pack on mushroom spot I won't pick up) will then show up again in green. Any idea how to minimize/solve this issue? It happens regularly (I'd almost say at least once a seed) and sometimes several time during a single seed. (edited)
Nicholas Steel 2021-07-28 21:07
You can try this though I have a suspicion the result won't be any different: Perform a tracker save & load your save, start auto tracking. My doubt stems from the sound of the Start option resetting everything instead of resuming. (edited)
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MrAaronSnerd 2021-08-07 08:27
Hey all, I'm trying to setup SD2SNES auto tracking with an FXPAKPRO and I am just struggling to get it rolling. I have SNI on my computer and the pak is connected via USB but I'm not getting anything from the tracker. Any help would be awesome and thanks in advance!
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Dorkmaster Flek 2021-08-07 08:33
I'm not sure why SNI is relevant to this, but you need Redguy's usb2snes version of the flash cart firmware as well as the usb2snes.exe program that comes with it running in your system tray to actually communicate with the cart.
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Instructions for this should be in the pinned messages in this channel, second most recent one.
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MrAaronSnerd 2021-08-07 12:00
I figured out how to get it working, I was just a tad dumb, thanks for the help on it!
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TarThoron
(if you use a bridge like QUSB2SNES or SNI you can use any Bizhawk, as those bridges emulate sd2snes)
LadyId19 2021-08-08 17:48
Hi! Sorry to reply/ping you like this. I was also trying to figure out why autotracking wasn't working for ALTTPR. I also use QUSB2SNES. Admittedly I am newer when it comes to using LUAs and their understanding? I used one previously with a Secret of Evermore randomizer (different tracker). Would the way to get it to work to load QUSB2SNES, then load the lua bridge first upon seed load, and then start the autotracker? (edited)
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TarThoron 2021-08-08 18:27
Order doesn't matter so much, though it will give errors if there's no rom loaded.
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LadyId19 2021-08-08 18:28
Okay, I figured out what my problem was
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Right click robot > select SD2SNES instead of Lua
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As soon as I did that items auto-populated
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But, does that mean I still need to load the lua script when I load the seed?
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TarThoron 2021-08-08 18:30
Luabridge talks to qusb, qusb talks to EmoTracker. (edited)
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LadyId19 2021-08-08 18:31
Ah, okay!
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Also, I'm guessing I would have to save within the auto-tracker to load up my game file and have the auto-tracker keep up to date?
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That is, when I quit and re-load my save file
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TarThoron 2021-08-08 18:36
Yes and no. If you don't save/load, you'll have to redo anything you've done manually, such as assigning dungeon prizes and medallion requirements, pinned locations, or force-cleared junk locations.
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But anything automatic will just autotrack again.
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LadyId19 2021-08-08 18:38
That makes sense. Although, I did load up that save file and nothing auto-tracked automatically. Yet, a new seed I created did auto-track.
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TarThoron 2021-08-08 18:41
Sometimes it needs a minute to kick in for already started seeds. Possibly a save & quit or reset. In SMZ3 it often needs a switch between Hyrule and Zebes. (edited)
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LadyId19 2021-08-08 18:46
Hmm. That wasn't it. Weird. not going to super stress about it, it was only my first time seed anyway! this was super helpful though for future runs! thank you. 🙂
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digiholic 2021-08-12 21:04
Is it possible to autotrack two different instances of Snes9x? I've run the connector Lua but it seems to attempt to connect both instances of the emulator to the same EmoTracker window
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EmoSaru 2021-08-12 21:13
Not currently, no.
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digiholic 2021-08-12 21:18
Dang
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SeaSaltSong 2021-08-14 17:20
I looked through the pinned messages, but didn't see how to autotrack Majora's Mask. I've seen some streamers do it before, how do I enable this?
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TarThoron 2021-08-14 17:46
EmoTracker doesn't autotrack N64. They may have been using a different tracker.
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UltiNaruto 2021-08-14 17:47
maybe a custom connector script I converted bizhawk one for VBA-RR is there a project64k version with lua support? (edited)
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TarThoron
EmoTracker doesn't autotrack N64. They may have been using a different tracker.
SeaSaltSong 2021-08-14 17:50
Ah, that makes sense, and explains why I struggled so much to find an answer
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maybe a custom connector script I converted bizhawk one for VBA-RR is there a project64k version with lua support? (edited)
SeaSaltSong 2021-08-14 17:51
I honeslty don't know what any of that means, so i can't say (edited)
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UltiNaruto 2021-08-14 17:53
nvm bizhawk has a N64 core
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TarThoron 2021-08-14 17:55
This is probably where you want to look https://wiki.ootrandomizer.com/index.php?title=Trackers But we're not supposed to talk about other trackers here, so that's all the help I'll give.
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EmoSaru 2021-08-14 18:00
Autotracking for N64 is mostly not currently supported because it gets complex as hell. The N64 marks the beginning of dynamic heap allocations in games, and there’s a bunch of support people need to do it properly in a general fashion.
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SeaSaltSong 2021-08-14 18:00
Fantastic, thanks!
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Dorkmaster Flek 2021-08-15 08:50
Yeah I can't imagine figuring out autotracking for dynamic allocation, that is a whole other level... 💦
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Matoto951 2021-08-16 15:23
Hi! I'm trying to use Emotracker with my Fxpak pro on my SNES. I can see that it's connected in the device manager in win 10, but the robot in Emo is stuck at Auto-tracking in yellow. What could I possibly be doing wrong? 😦
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goldenspacedragon 2021-08-16 15:45
Are you sure that the auto tracking started/did you check that auto tracking has “start” checked?
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EmoSaru 2021-08-16 17:16
Are you running usb2snes Or qusb2snes? One of those applications needs to be running.
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Matoto951 2021-08-16 17:58
That was it EmoSaru! Thanks a lot 😄 (edited)
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EmoSaru 2021-08-16 18:04
What game are you playing, and what pack? That should not the case.
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Matoto951 2021-08-16 18:44
it finally resolved itself. thanks a lot for your help EmoSaru! 🙂
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Dust 2021-08-20 08:29
Hi everyone. I am trying to use the auto- tracker for oracle of seasons randomizer. I am using MGBA and Gambit. The auto tracker does not seem to be working. What do I need to do to have it linked for auto tracking? Any help is appreciated
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UltiNaruto 2021-08-20 08:44
does it have the cloud icon at the bottom right-hand corner?
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also you would rather use bizhawk for that since MGBA standalone has no script support
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TarThoron 2021-08-20 08:55
Pretty sure GBA autotracking is Bizhawk exclusive, even if other emulators can run the script.
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Rom-Steïn 2021-08-20 09:07
^
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however, bizhawk does consume more ressources than mGBA if you play on a low-end PC, you might want to switch to mGBA
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Dust 2021-08-20 12:38
Found it. You are right it was the emulator I was using 🙂
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MuffinJets 2021-08-20 21:56
Why would you use mGBA for a GBC game?
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Oracle of seasons also doesn't have autotracking iirc
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If you're autotracking for a GBC game, use the Gambette core with Bizhawk
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Rom-Steïn 2021-08-20 21:59
I saw someone saying GBA autotracking, my bad yeah you wouldn't use mGBA for GBC games
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TarThoron 2021-08-20 22:48
Interesting that Seasons doesn't have autotracking, but Ages does. Both packs are from @Herreteman. Also interesting that the package manager doesn't have the robot for Ages, but it's there if you actually load the pack.
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EmoSaru 2021-08-20 22:50
Pack devs control what icons appear in the package manager, with one exception, so that's something they can fix on their own if they care too. They probably didn't update it when they added autotracking, just a minor oversight.
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Herreteman 2021-08-21 01:50
I haven't worked on those packs for quite a while and don't plan to update them, I'd advice you go to the Oracles Discord for help on that @TarThoron
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Zork 2021-08-21 16:57
trying to use autotracker with retroarch and Qusb2snes doesnt say anything but the autotrackers robot is blue (edited)
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TarThoron 2021-08-21 17:04
Which version of RA?
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And qusb
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Zork 2021-08-21 17:06
RA is 1.9.8 and qusb is 0.7.20
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TarThoron 2021-08-21 17:11
And which core?
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Zork 2021-08-21 17:12
Bsnes Mercury accuracy
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TarThoron 2021-08-21 17:12
Network commands turned on?
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Zork 2021-08-21 17:13
yep
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TarThoron 2021-08-21 17:13
Try restarting both?
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Of course, if the robot is blue, it's worth collecting something to see if the tracking is working, despite what qusb says.
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Zork 2021-08-21 17:17
restarted both retroarch and qusb and its saying retroarch localhost not running
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TarThoron 2021-08-21 17:24
Are both programs running on the same machine? If not, are they physically connected to the same network? Qusb can't detect other machines over wifi.
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Zork 2021-08-21 17:24
yeah Im using both on my main desktop
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TarThoron 2021-08-21 17:26
Hmm. Double check network commands are on. Beyond that, it's over my head.
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Zork 2021-08-21 17:28
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TarThoron 2021-08-21 17:35
You might try an earlier version of RA. How memory is read got changed in 1.9.1, and qusb has been having issues communicating with it since then. Alternatively, you could try SNI instead of QUSB.
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Zork 2021-08-21 17:36
yeah I tried RA 1.9.0 and qusb complained about it being out of date lol
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TarThoron 2021-08-21 17:36
https://github.com/alttpo/sni
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Zork 2021-08-21 17:47
well sni is detecting retroarch but autotracker keeps going red
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Zork 2021-08-21 17:56
it shouldnt matter what bsnes mercury core Im using yeah?
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TarThoron 2021-08-21 17:59
Shouldn't. Accuracy and Balance tend to be best.
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Zork 2021-08-21 18:05
thats what i figured
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heres sni's log file at any rate
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Zork 2021-08-21 18:41
so decided to try giving bizhawk a try
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using 2.4.0 like it wants but "|Failed to open socket: Connection refused"
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you dont think its cos theyre on seperate hard drives?
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my bad had the script paused without realising lol
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TarThoron 2021-08-21 18:48
Bsnes bizhawk core?
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Zork 2021-08-21 18:49
snes9x cos the download for the bsnes one doesnt work on the tasvideos site
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TarThoron 2021-08-21 18:49
Only works with bsnes core.
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Zork 2021-08-21 18:50
ah
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ah ok I found wher eyou switch cores lol
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ok yeah just gonna use bizhawk for auto trackers I think lol
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Kaizen 2021-08-23 16:12
is there a particular setting or something that would make the autotracker only track keys and not items?
16:13
using snes9x rr and official emo tracker alttp support items w/keys
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cluekitty 2021-08-23 16:13
could modify the pack and disable item tracking and just have it track keys instead
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Probably not a setting on its own
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Kaizen 2021-08-23 16:14
sorry I misspoke, it's currently not tracking items, but is tracking keys
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cluekitty 2021-08-23 16:14
Oh
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I've had terrible sleep and misread. I think when I was looking at the alttp tracker, anything that a user tracks manually won't get tracked automatically (assuming I read the lua scripts correctly)
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Kaizen 2021-08-23 16:16
idk, just now it tracked the ice rod from out in the open, but not the flippers in a chest
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no clue what's happening lmao
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EmoSaru 2021-08-23 17:33
There is no such setting... Are you running a newly generated seed from the randomizer website, or something esoteric...
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Kaizen 2021-08-23 17:33
generated from website
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EmoSaru 2021-08-23 17:34
And you're using the snes9x connector script in the EmoTracker install directory, and not running e.g. CrowdControl at the same time?
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Kaizen 2021-08-23 17:34
correct
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EmoSaru 2021-08-23 17:34
Okay, that is not an issue that I have encountered before. What EmoTracker version number is listed in the EmoTracker window's titlebar?
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Kaizen 2021-08-23 17:35
EmoTracker 2.3.8.14
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It got to the point where it was randomly deciding what to track, i.e. sometimes it would, sometimes it wouldn't, even with keys
17:36
sometimes an old item picked up would update when picking up another item
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EmoSaru 2021-08-23 17:36
Hmm, okay. What version of snes9x-rr are you using?
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Kaizen 2021-08-23 17:36
v1.57
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EmoSaru 2021-08-23 17:39
Okay. While I'm not aware of a particular issue with 1.57, there is a copy of version 1.54 in a zip file in the EmoTracker install folder. The next thing I'd have you try (when you're not mid-stream) is to try it with that version of Snes9x-rr, and let us know if the issue still persists.
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Kaizen 2021-08-23 17:39
will test after stream, thanks Emo kaizenL
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Kaizen 2021-08-23 19:25
After testing on 1.54, it seems resolved...which is sad cause I don't believe 1.54 allows MSU, but I can deal.
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I only tested for about 10 minutes, but everything picked up was instantly shown on the tracker
19:25
much different than earlier
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the only differences I can think of (since both were fresh installs today) was the use of MSU in 1.57, and removing the bottom frame text via the .conf file.
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EmoSaru 2021-08-23 22:40
Okay. I'm not sure what would be causing the issues with 1.57, but it does seem that some people have been able to run successfully with 1.60.
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Kaizen 2021-08-24 11:31
I can give it a shot, and see what happens. Thanks again Emo kaizenL
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Kaizen 2021-08-24 17:40
Update: Worked off stream, didn't work while streaming. Very odd. I wonder if it's something with my computer then, since the only thing that should change between the two is my processor use. Hmm.
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Kaizen 2021-08-25 20:31
Issue persisted for today's stream, I'm not sure why.
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EmoSaru 2021-08-25 22:25
Have you tested whether the issue is streaming or having OBS running?
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Systemeth 2021-08-26 11:33
Having an issue where autotracking is not updating, specifically (and only) with the combined Super Metroid/ALttP package. I'm using RetroArch v1.9.0 (bsnes mercury balanced) and SNI, and the robot turns cyan as though no problems. But the tracker is simply not updating as I get items. This setup works fine if I am using either game's packages but not when tracking for the combined game. I am also doing a multiworld at the same time if it matters (though this has not caused problems with the singular games). And SNI at least recognizes that EmoTracker is connected to it as well. So I really don't know what the underlying cause is here. I did a search here and saw someone else having what seemed to be the exact same problem, but no solution had been given so I thought asking again despite it being asked previously. (edited)
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EmoSaru 2021-08-26 11:40
I have not done any testing with SNI, so I can't say whether it has an issue or not.
11:40
I can say that EmoTracker is known to work with qusb2snes, the original usb2snes, and the usb2snes service variant that comes with CrowdControl
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Systemeth 2021-08-26 11:42
The person I am doing this with is using QUSB2SNES (latest version) and is having the same issue.
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(Specifically QUSB2SNES 0.7.20)
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TarThoron 2021-08-26 11:43
I'd be interested to know if it happens in non-multiworld too.
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Systemeth 2021-08-26 11:47
Will check, one sec.
11:51
Okay, same problem.
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Only changed variable is that this is non-multiworld.
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I have also tried switching going Zebes -> Hyrule, and reverse, in addition to save & quit
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This is with SNI
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Will try again with QUSB2SNES.
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EmoSaru 2021-08-26 11:54
also verify that you are not running more than one usb2snes protocol-providing app at once
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Mopsy 2021-08-26 11:56
Hi, I'm the other person mentioned above. I tried SMZ3 multiworld from https://samus.link with both the most recent version of sni (0.0.47), and the most recent version of QUsb2snes (0.7.20), also with RetroArch 1.9.0, amd64 on Windows 10 21H1 (19043.1110). I was sure to close out any RPC interfaces and clean up any handles during testing, etc. Unrelated to the above issue, and not to the end of resolving it, but in general, I would suggest testing with SNI. In my own experiments, it's seemed far more robust and resilient, with no input needed from the end-user. And I've never had a crash with it, compared to the myriad crashes with QUsb2snes (which is what motivated testing sni out in the first place). (edited)
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EmoSaru 2021-08-26 11:57
I only found out about its EXISTENCE recently, and to say that I'm currently extremely busy is an understatement. It's not that I don't care, it's that I will do it when I actually have time now that I even know about it.
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Beyond that, I use the same connectivity layer code as CrowdControl, so it's not entirely under my control until I replace that with something else. See also being very busy.
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Mopsy 2021-08-26 11:58
Hey now, you're fine. I am also a developer. I understand that people can get demanding with things. This is not that, so please do not feel defensive. This is a channel for support for autotracking, it seemed prudent to report here.
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If you have any suggestions, we are willing to try them; we are not demanding work.
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EmoSaru 2021-08-26 11:59
I'm still pissed about the fact that qusb2nses came in, broke a bunch of shit with a janky implementation, killed the original app (which worked), and then fractured the whole space.
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There WAS a standard.
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Mopsy 2021-08-26 11:59
I mean, I agree, QUsb2snes is awful, haha.
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Systemeth 2021-08-26 12:00
Okay, so, with QUSB2SNES, specifically using an older version that I used to use, it works. Kind of. It was a little unstable but eventually was okay. I will be trying again with current QUSB2SNES just to see. I wish I knew what this older version of QUSB2SNES was (it doesn't say, the version info is blank for some reason) tho'. And as an aside I do hope that SNI becomes the new standard, because its resilience makes things very easy to manage. (edited)
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(still non-multiworld that is, in terms of what I'm talking about)
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Mopsy 2021-08-26 12:01
Whenever you are not as busy (and believe me, I get it, I have been meaning to try SMZ3 for a few months now), I would suggest giving sni a look. Besides seeming to be written very well, it's my impression that the dev would be very responsive to issue reports. If it works well, I think dropping support for QUsb2snes altogether might be a good end-goal. https://github.com/alttpo/sni
12:02
Anyhow, thanks for looking at this. If we figure out a solution or workaround, we will report back.
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Systemeth 2021-08-26 12:02
How stable the QUSB2SNES connection was seemed to be dependent on my making sure RetroArch was the focused window.
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Have you tested whether the issue is streaming or having OBS running?
Kaizen 2021-08-26 12:02
I'll try that now.
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Systemeth 2021-08-26 12:02
Which was an odd quirk but w/e.
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Okay with current QUSB2SNES (v0.7.20) the robot goes cyan, then alternates between cyan and yellow, then goes red. When I check QUSB2SNES it shows an error: Timeout on one of the command (edited)
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TarThoron 2021-08-26 12:13
Seems to be the same issue Zork had a few days ago. They ended up switching to Bizhawk.
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Systemeth 2021-08-26 12:15
I think I will try with the older version of QUSB2SNES that I had kept since it seemed to work, as I am curious on if multiworld presents any change under that setup.
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Have you tested whether the issue is streaming or having OBS running?
Kaizen 2021-08-26 12:17
Tested off stream, and with a bandwidth test. No lag/issues to start with, but after a few minutes the tracking starts lagging, and it progressively gets worse until it no longer tracks the items. Results were the same once I stopped OBS as well. Going to try reinstalling emotracker
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EmoSaru 2021-08-26 12:21
I doubt a reinstall is going to help.
12:21
FWIW, I have had no issues with LTTP in local testing, but I will double check what versions of things I am using and test again.
12:22
For those dealing with SMZ3, it is a complicated beast, and I don't own that pack, so I can't say for certain what other issues might be present there.
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Systemeth 2021-08-26 12:23
Using my older QUSB2SNES in multiworld, everything works fine, no issues. At least in terms of being connected to the site just fine and connected to Emotracker just fine. Not certain yet on whether items will actually be sent, but we'll see. (edited)
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Mopsy 2021-08-26 12:27
Systemeth sent me their weird QUsb2snes (it indeed has no version, in-app, in the log, nor in the Properties), and my tracking immediately updated correctly. I don't know why this works and the latest pre-release doesn't seem to at all.
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Kaizen 2021-08-26 12:28
Thanks emo, I'm sorry it's causing trouble. It's gotta be something on my end.
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Mopsy 2021-08-26 12:28
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Systemeth 2021-08-26 12:33
Confirming that items are being sent. justwerks
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TarThoron 2021-08-26 12:36
Based on size and date modified, that's 0.7.17.3 https://github.com/Skarsnik/QUsb2snes/releases/tag/v0.7.17.3 (edited)
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EmoSaru 2021-08-26 12:36
I'll try to dig into the latest qusb2snes and SNI in the next week or two, but no guarantees on timing. I'm assuming that, per-usual, the qusb2snes devs decided something wasn't optimal and broke the protocol in some way in the process.
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Based on size and date modified, that's 0.7.17.3 https://github.com/Skarsnik/QUsb2snes/releases/tag/v0.7.17.3 (edited)
Mopsy 2021-08-26 12:39
Good to know! Thanks!
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I'll try to dig into the latest qusb2snes and SNI in the next week or two, but no guarantees on timing. I'm assuming that, per-usual, the qusb2snes devs decided something wasn't optimal and broke the protocol in some way in the process.
Mopsy 2021-08-26 12:40
Hey, thanks a lot! No rush or anything, just wanted to get it on the tracker, as it were. What's weird is that both SNI and recent QUsb2snes don't work, but old QUsb2snes does.
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EmoSaru 2021-08-26 12:57
On my system, the latest version of qusb2snes works just fine with EmoTracker using my pack for location/item tracking in LTTPR using an FX Pak Pro flash cart. I'm assuming folks who are having issues are on emulator?
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Systemeth 2021-08-26 12:58
ALTTPR was never an issue for Mopsy and I, it was only and specifically SMZ3. But yes, emulator. (edited)
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EmoSaru 2021-08-26 12:58
And just to confirm, on emulator, if you are using qusb2snes
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You are using the multitroid lua script
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Not the lua script that comes with EmoTracker
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Systemeth 2021-08-26 12:59
Neither. RetroArch.
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No LUA script.
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EmoSaru 2021-08-26 12:59
Gotcha, okay.
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Just FYI, Retroarch support has historically been... "fucked"
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Their API has changed a lot and been spotty (edited)
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And qusb's support of it has never been great
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SMZ3 is an exhirom game, which is very rare (edited)
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Which means the memory map is interesting and weird, to say the least
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Systemeth 2021-08-26 13:01
Retroarch, SNI, and QUSB2SNES work fine with ALTTPR (SNI works better). Again, this is a specific to SMZ3 thing. RA with SNI works fine with the rest.
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Mopsy 2021-08-26 13:09
Based on the data we have personally tested, RetroArch works and auto-tracks just fine with: - ALttP (SNI or QUsb2snes) - ALttPr (SNI or QUsb2snes) - ALttPr-multiworld (SNI or QUsb2snes) ...but only seems to work with SMZ3 and SMZ3-multiworld if you're on that older QUsb2snes (seems to be 0.7.17.3). Also, as far as I understand it, SMZ3 is able to exist because ALttP and SM do not share any memory space, so I think that shouldn't effect tracking abilities, though that would require further testing. That said, because of the API changes in RetroArch, we're running on 1.9.0. Should we go further back? Either way, it works right now with QUsb2snes 0.7.17.3. I've checked the hash; CRC32 is 29C2A215, so it's indeed 0.7.17.3 as @TarThoron suggested (thanks! blobthanks ). If it failed across all RPC interfaces, that would almost make more sense. Is it possible for a pack to be designed with a specific interface in mind, and break on those that follow spec?
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Anyhow, just providing info. If you need anything else from us, feel free to ping or DM me. blobsmileopenmouth2
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Systemeth 2021-08-26 13:12
Also to add to the above, RetroArch on higher than 1.9.0 (can personally confirm 1.9.6, 1.9.7, and 1.9.8) will work with SNI specifically for ALttP, ALttPr, and Super Metroid by itself.
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Both non multiworld and on multiworld.
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EmoSaru 2021-08-26 13:15
SMZ3 autotracking, using the latest dorkmaster pack, appears to work correctly for me (across both games) on fx pak pro hardware with both SNI and the latest qusb2snes pre-release. I can't speak for multiworld. (edited)
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That implies to me that there is an issue with SNI and qusb2snes' handling of mapping the sd2snes address space calls to the emulator in this case.
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Or at least that there is a behavioral difference on their end that's unexpected. (edited)
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I only specifically support a particular set of emulators via the Lua scripts currently provided with emotracker, and I support the sd2snes protocol which I test on sd2snes. My assumption has to be that the various sd2snes-emulator bridge folks are ensuring that they respond equivalently to addresses and reads.
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If somebody who works with those folks can tell me what EmoTracker is generating in this case that's tripping their code up, I'm happy to fix it.
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But it would require debugging their end of the system, which is not something I can take on right now.
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Mopsy 2021-08-26 13:28
Thanks for the info! Which emulators do you support? If it would be helpful, I can attempt to replicate this issue on one of those emulators via sd2snes, as I think it will be the most applicable to this use case. I can also try to poke the sni dev to see if this is something they might have information about.
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EmoSaru 2021-08-26 13:29
The pinned messages in this channel contain setup information for every emulator I support. That said, I only specifically provide support for them via the included (in the emotracker install directory) connector.lua scripts.
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The current list is bizhawk and snes9x-rr.
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Mopsy 2021-08-26 13:30
So you do not support the sd2snes protocol?
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EmoSaru 2021-08-26 13:30
I absolutely support the sd2snes protocol.
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On sd2snes.
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All emulator sd2snes support is provided by apps I don't control.
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Ergo, it's up to them to support the sd2snes protocol such that it performs equivalently to sd2snes hardware.
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Mopsy 2021-08-26 13:31
Understood.
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EmoSaru 2021-08-26 13:32
Again, to be clear, if anybody who digs deeper with those folks can tell me what EmoTracker is sending that is causing them an issue, I'm happy to fix it if it's at all possible.
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TarThoron 2021-08-26 14:00
I'm pretty sure the issue is confined to RetroArch and how it communicates with qusb/sni. The ExHiROM mapping might indeed be why it only happens with SMZ3. At least I haven't seen these reports from anyone using emulators other than RA.
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I'm pretty sure the issue is confined to RetroArch and how it communicates with qusb/sni. The ExHiROM mapping might indeed be why it only happens with SMZ3. At least I haven't seen these reports from anyone using emulators other than RA.
Mopsy 2021-08-26 15:25
Hm. Do you then have any insight on why would it work with an older QUsb2snes, but not newer versions of it, nor with sni? If the bug were solely caused by RetroArch, I would think nothing short of changing the RetroArch version or to another emulator would resolve it.
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TarThoron 2021-08-26 16:08
It's possible something broke on the qusb side too. Would have to test each version between 0.7.17.3 and 0.7.20 to see just when it stops working, and see what changed. Why SNI doesn't work is beyond me. I'm not sure if jsd wrote the code from scratch or based it on skarsnik's. If it's the latter, it may have inherited the issue.
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Mopsy 2021-08-26 16:44
I can see about narrowing it down.
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TarThoron 2021-08-26 16:55
Qusb has its own Discord (invite should be in the menu). If the bug is on that side, I'm sure Skars would appreciate help tracking it down. (He reads here too, but the qusb server would be better for bug hunting.)
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MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2021-08-27 22:47
@Mopsy @Systemeth I would like to get that data added to my wiki page if possible. Thanks! http://alttp.mymm1.com/wiki/Emulator/Autotracking
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Lots of people asking about the different permutations and what incantations and/or rituals are required to get them running.
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Mopsy 2021-08-28 00:04
Sure, feel free to add it based on what we've reported above.
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Hexmage 2021-08-29 12:36
so if im reading this correctly i have to downgrade bizhawk to 2.4.2 to make it work with emotracker autotracking?
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TarThoron 2021-08-29 12:43
If you want to connect Bizhawk directly to EmoTracker, yes. If you use qusb2snes or SNI as a bridge, you can use any Bizhawk.
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Hexmage 2021-08-29 12:46
you would then load the emotracker script in qusb2snes and then use thats lua in bizhawk?
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TarThoron 2021-08-29 12:51
Qusb comes with luabridge.lua, which you run in bizhawk. Set Emo to read sd2snes.
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ThePacMan721 2021-09-02 13:57
Hey New member here, I can't get the tracker and BixHawk to connect but its saying Failed to open socket: connection refused, is there something im meant to press on the tracker to make it work? i've looked up tutorials and they say to press on a robot to connect but i dont see one, any tips?
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TarThoron 2021-09-02 14:03
What game are you trying to track?
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ThePacMan721 2021-09-02 14:03
Loz Oot for N64
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TarThoron 2021-09-02 14:04
EmoTracker doesn't auto-track N64 games.
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ThePacMan721 2021-09-02 14:04
ahh ok, thanks for letting me know
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TarThoron 2021-09-02 14:05
https://wiki.ootrandomizer.com/index.php?title=Trackers
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ThePacMan721 2021-09-02 14:06
thank you will try out a few of these
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Marcelolhe 2021-09-03 09:46
hello, ppl... I'm using EmoTracker 2.3.8.14 and playing ALTTP keysanity, the autotracker is ok, but it's not counting the chests in the dungeons, only the chests on overworld and all the items...
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I'm marking manually the chests after I finish the dungeon... haha
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Lurch9229 2021-09-03 09:49
Dungeons are not autotracked on Emosaru's package due to race rules (edited)
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Dungeons are not autotracked on Emosaru's package due to race rules (edited)
Marcelolhe 2021-09-03 10:04
just for keysanity, or for all types in ALTTP?
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Lurch9229 2021-09-03 10:04
all types
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Marcelolhe 2021-09-03 10:06
ah, ok... hahaha thanks
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Lurch9229 2021-09-03 10:06
but I think smz3 has key and dungeon tracking because different rules apply, you could use that and remove the sm maps and icons with an override (edited)
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but I think smz3 has key and dungeon tracking because different rules apply, you could use that and remove the sm maps and icons with an override (edited)
Marcelolhe 2021-09-03 10:10
It's a good idea, thank you very much! (edited)
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but I think smz3 has key and dungeon tracking because different rules apply, you could use that and remove the sm maps and icons with an override (edited)
Dorkmaster Flek 2021-09-03 11:30
That is in no way guaranteed to work. It might, but I don't know if ALTTPR uses different SRAM addresses for tracking dungeon chests and keys, and even if it does work it may not in the future. This is very much a "provided as-is without warranty, use at your own risk" scenario. 😛
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Anguirel 2021-09-03 12:14
The CodeTracker pack also supports dungeon chest tracking.
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Vicendithas 2021-09-04 21:06
Hey everyone. Is there any autotracker support for any GameBoy/GBC emulators? In the pinned messages, I see information for SNES, but nothing for GameBoy.
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PolychromeVirus 2021-09-04 21:06
afaik only nes and snes are supported right now
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TarThoron 2021-09-04 21:24
There's some GB(A) support. AFAIK it only works with Bizhawk. Someone said use Gambette core for GBC. I'm not sure what core you would use for GBA.
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Other than the core, the setup is the same as Bizhawk SNES. (edited)
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Vicendithas 2021-09-07 17:22
I've been working on adding autotracking to my pack now, nothing substantial yet, mostly just playing around with Bizhawk. I was wondering something though. I understand that the autotracking connector to BizHawk is the same one used by CrowdControl. The version included with EmoTracker only supports up to BizHawk 2.3 - 2.4, but CrowdControl supports up to BizHawk 2.6 now. Is there a reason the EmoTracker connector is behind?
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TarThoron 2021-09-07 17:31
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cluekitty 2021-09-07 17:44
You can just download the latest CC scripts
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Vicendithas 2021-09-07 18:12
Great. Thanks for the explanation.
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Are there any guides/wikis for how to program autotracking? I'm looking at an existing pack and I understand some of how it works, but there's some parts of the API I don't understand.
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EmoSaru 2021-09-07 19:02
The best way, like everything in EmoTracker, is to use a pack for reference (with my LTTPR pack being "the standard") and ask questions in #customization-support
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Vicendithas 2021-09-07 19:49
sounds good. Thanks!
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Kaizen 2021-09-20 16:03
Would this be any indication of why I might be having issues?
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specifically the "script returned but..." section
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Anguirel 2021-09-20 16:41
That looks correct. What issues are you having?
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TarThoron 2021-09-20 17:17
The last line is the only important one for most purposes.
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Kaizen 2021-09-20 17:24
Delayed tracking, intermittent lack of tracking, sometimes just not working at all. We've changed emulator versions, tested streaming vs recording vs neither of those, to no avail
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Anguirel 2021-09-20 17:26
I've heard of several people with that issue before. Next time it happens, open the developer console (Gear icon -> Advanced -> Developer Console). Check if there are any errors. They will be in angry looking red text.
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Kaizen 2021-09-21 12:37
Okie will do, sorry for delayed response
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Kaizen 2021-09-21 13:00
This came up after a save and quit, and then stopped tracking
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Kaizen 2021-09-21 13:17
I should note it wasn't the first save and quit, it was like the 4th or so, about 20 mins in.
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Dorkmaster Flek 2021-09-21 13:34
I see some CrowdControl stuff in there. IIRC EmoTracker's autotracking does not like CC, I don't think you can use both together.
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Kaizen 2021-09-21 13:58
i don't have crowd control enabled, nor am I even using the same emulator I would use for it
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I noticed that too, but I genuinely don't know why that would even be happening, given I've never done CC on snes9x.
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cluekitty 2021-09-21 14:02
fwiw, the connector scripts bundled with emotracker are the crowd control scripts
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Kaizen 2021-09-21 14:04
That would explain that part at least.
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Anguirel 2021-09-21 14:05
Looks like the same bug I reported in https://discord.com/channels/386961931988369418/386970120616148994/827538402559000596. It's related to the Autotracker:Read* functions. Using QUsb2Snes instead of connector.lua has been a workaround for me, but not sure if that works for everyone.
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Kaizen 2021-09-21 14:06
I can certainly give it a shot!
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Thanks Anguirel
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Kaizen 2021-09-21 18:18
Update, this workaround had no problems on my first full seed trying it.
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mmax49 2021-09-26 12:02
I keep getting this message error loading module 'socket.core' from file '.\socket.dll': The specified module could not be found.
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can anyone help me with this?
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Apokalysme 2021-09-26 12:06
if you use Snes9x, you must use 32bits version
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mmax49 2021-09-26 12:11
that is what I have.
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and I do use the Snes9x.
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Apokalysme 2021-09-26 12:13
32bits version of Snes9x, not Emotracker (which is already 32 bits)
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mmax49 2021-09-26 12:15
yep! I just double checked it and it is the 32 bit version
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Apokalysme 2021-09-26 12:17
🤔 are you using standard Snes9x or multitroid variant ?
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mmax49 2021-09-26 12:19
it says snes9x-rr-1.60-win32
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Apokalysme 2021-09-26 12:20
ok, so standard one, seemingly
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TarThoron 2021-09-26 12:23
Try this one. Should include the .dll https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QN3SvqOGJdRqvCGcCE_7INchOhfLamrb/view?usp=drivesdk
snes9x-rr-1.60-win32-multitroid2-r5.zip
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Could also try like v1.55 or something. It used to come with the official release.
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Once the .dll is present, from any release, it should be good for newer versions.
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mmax49 2021-09-26 12:33
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!
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I will not tell you how much time I have spent trying to google and understand but it was A LOT.
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Soyhr 2021-09-27 16:48
I feel very blind but I am unable to locate the connect.lua file to run the lua script. Trying to setup auto tracking but the link above ^ and the one in pinned notes doesn't have the connector.lua included...?
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Anguirel 2021-09-27 16:52
It should be in the EmoTracker install directory. For me, that's C:\Program Files (x86)\EmoTracker\Connectors
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bryanburke 2021-09-27 16:53
Hello all! I am trying to use auto-tracking for SMZ3 in RetroArch (bsnes-mercury core) via QUsb2Snes. Super Metroid works well with this setup using the DASH randomizer pack. However, auto-tracking with the SMZ3 pack does not seem to be working. Do some packs explicitly require Bizhawk for auto-tracking support?
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Soyhr 2021-09-27 16:53
like i said, blind
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Hello all! I am trying to use auto-tracking for SMZ3 in RetroArch (bsnes-mercury core) via QUsb2Snes. Super Metroid works well with this setup using the DASH randomizer pack. However, auto-tracking with the SMZ3 pack does not seem to be working. Do some packs explicitly require Bizhawk for auto-tracking support?
Lurch9229 2021-09-27 16:54
smz3 can work with snes9x, but I'm not entirely sure with retroarch as I don't use it personally
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TarThoron 2021-09-27 17:06
Which versions of qusb and RA? There was a new release of qusb yesterday which should be much more compatible with recent RAs (1.9.2+). Sometimes switching to another bsnes mercury core will work better. The snes9x 2010 core should also work well.
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bryanburke 2021-09-27 17:24
@TarThoron I'm on latest RA (1.9.8). I was on QUsb2Snes 0.7.20. Just updated to 0.7.21 and will give that a shot. Thanks for the heads up on the new version.
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TarThoron 2021-09-27 17:28
RA is up to 1.9.10 now.
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bryanburke 2021-09-27 17:45
@TarThoron I was able to get it working with the Snes9x (Current) core. Snes9x 2010 and all three bsnes-mercury cores lead to lost auto-tracker connection for some reason. Thanks for the tips!
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Does the auto-tracker have logs I can review?
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TarThoron 2021-09-27 17:54
There's the developer console under the advanced menu, which should show any errors.
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bryanburke 2021-09-27 18:35
Don't see any logs in the Emotracker developer console. However, in the QUsb2Snes debug logs, I see these entries when Emotracker tries to request core memory access for bsnes-mercury:
2021-09-27T20:31:18 RetroArcHost - Debug: "Localhost" >> "READ_CORE_MEMORY 2173fe 2\n" 2021-09-27T20:31:18 WSServer - Debug: Request executed 2021-09-27T20:31:18 RetroArcHost - Debug: "Localhost" << "READ_CORE_MEMORY 2173fe -1 no data for descriptor\n" from QHostAddress("::ffff:127.0.0.1") 55355 2021-09-27T20:31:18 RETROARCH - Debug: Error with Get memory 2021-09-27T20:31:18 WSServer - Debug: Device Error "RetroArch Localhost" 2021-09-27T20:31:18 WSServer - Debug: Cleaning up device "RetroArch Localhost" 2021-09-27T20:31:18 WSServer - Debug: Error with a ws client "EmoTracker 2.3.8.14" WSServer::DeviceError "Device closed"
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When using the Snes9x (Current) core, I see READ_CORE_RAM calls succeeding. Thanks @TarThoron again for helping me get auto-tracking working in Snes9x.
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Nezcal Spindrake 2021-10-03 13:47
Is there an autotracker for vanilla super metroid? The packs on the manager don't have it and my searches on google found nothing and I'm short 2 missile tanks in a vanilla game where I wasn't using the tracker from the beginning
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Lurch9229 2021-10-03 13:50
Pretty sure there isn't but DM me you game map and I can try and point you to where to look
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Dorkmaster Flek 2021-10-03 17:12
I think you could use one of the rando map packs with autotracking.
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It should work for the map locations, it should at least let you know what locations you haven't cleared yet.
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Lurch9229 2021-10-03 17:12
I pointed them to the Varia map tracker
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Terrabull 2021-10-04 12:54
Hello, I'm trying to get autotracking to work with archepeligo Zelda Randomizer, but it keeps telling me I need a different version to use crowd control. I'm not trying to use crowd control.
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EmoSaru 2021-10-04 13:05
We use the same emulator communication layer as crowd control. Use a supported version of bizhawk, or some people have posted alternative versions of the scripts here that may work for you if you search.
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Or use something like qusb2snes to emulate an sd2snes on your emulator if it’s supported.
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I will say, however, that any issues you run into beyond that initial setup with archipelago are not something I provide support for. I very specifically and deliberately do not provide any support related to that branch. (edited)
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Firstc624TV 2021-10-04 17:31
I am sorry if i am asking something that is answered somewhere else i just wasn't able to find it. So the default version of Bizhawk that comes w/ the crowd control via the one click install (currently version 2.6.1) does NOT work with autotracking correct using the official package. It looks like i need to "downgrade" to 2.3 or 2.3.1 Correct? Again appologies if this was answered somewhere i just couldn't find it
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cluekitty 2021-10-04 17:39
You can either downgrade, or look for the latest version of the Crowd Control SDK and use the connector scripts in that zip file
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TarThoron 2021-10-04 18:11
Or use qusb2snes or SNI to make Bizhawk look like a sd2snes to EmoTracker.
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Firstc624TV 2021-10-04 18:46
Thank you. I will just "downgrade" to versions that Emo connector shows to use
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Rom-Steïn 2021-10-05 01:58
The thing with qusb2snes is that it only works for SNES autotrackers though
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bryanburke 2021-10-05 16:53
Is it a known issue that the ALTTPR pack auto-tracker doesn't clear dungeon chests in the map tracker on latest randomizer version? I'm not doing multi-world and am experiencing the issue on Bizhawk 2.3.1 and QUsb2Snes + RetroArch.
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EmoSaru 2021-10-05 16:56
It specifically does not do that by design, as that behavior is not race legal. My pack only supports race legal operations.
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bryanburke 2021-10-05 17:00
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks @EmoSaru !
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DnDPaladin 2021-10-08 20:23
I play on snes9x the tracker works fine, but i hae to disconnect the lua and reocnnect it for the tracker to finally see the dungeons were done. i thought it was me clicking and putting the tracker on manual. but it seems this dungeon thing is legit ?
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MeleeWizard 2021-10-09 04:51
(Assuming you're using EmoSaru's LttP pack) Yeah, the powers that be regarding LttP rando racing have deemed auto-tracking dungeon checks illegal. Not sure why, but I don't race so it doesn't mean much to me. Codemann8's pack has the option to turn that restriction off.
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TarThoron 2021-10-09 06:47
I think they meant the dungeon prizes, not the chests, since resetting the lua results in tracking happening.
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TarThoron 2021-10-10 07:35
That's more #customization-support
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Traylon 2021-10-14 23:38
using snes9x, the rr fork i guess?
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Rom-Steïn 2021-10-14 23:46
Yes you have to use the RR fork for SNES9X
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Traylon 2021-10-14 23:46
ok but how do i fix this issue...i found a download for the .dll if that's what i need
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Rom-Steïn 2021-10-14 23:46
Or you could try bizhawk with bsnes core if your autotracker supports that
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Are you using a 32bits windows ?
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Traylon 2021-10-14 23:46
64
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Rom-Steïn 2021-10-14 23:47
I don't see then sorry
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Traylon 2021-10-14 23:47
what?
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Rom-Steïn 2021-10-14 23:51
I don't have an explanation for the error
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Traylon 2021-10-15 00:10
can someone help me please
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TarThoron 2021-10-15 00:33
Use the 32bit snes9x-rr. You may need to grab an older version. For sone reason v1.60 doesn't come with socket.dll anymore. But once that .dll is installed, it works for the current version too.
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Traylon 2021-10-15 05:46
I found socket.dll but idk where to put it
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TarThoron
Use the 32bit snes9x-rr. You may need to grab an older version. For sone reason v1.60 doesn't come with socket.dll anymore. But once that .dll is installed, it works for the current version too.
Traylon 2021-10-15 05:51
tried 32-bit, still didn't work though
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i can't find any previous versions :/ edit: got an older version but still didn't work (edited)
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TarThoron 2021-10-15 06:27
Try this version https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QN3SvqOGJdRqvCGcCE_7INchOhfLamrb/view?usp=drivesdk
snes9x-rr-1.60-win32-multitroid2-r5.zip
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TarThoron
Try this version https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QN3SvqOGJdRqvCGcCE_7INchOhfLamrb/view?usp=drivesdk
Traylon 2021-10-15 08:09
yo it worked thanks
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JackSparks 2021-10-15 16:06
I need help connecting my Snes9x to Link to the Past
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I have 1.60
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I need help connecting my Snes9x to Link to the Past
Traylon 2021-10-15 16:07
If it's auto tracking you need to fix, use what I did above
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JackSparks 2021-10-15 16:08
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TarThoron 2021-10-15 16:09
Get the version of snes9x I linked a few messages up.
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JackSparks 2021-10-15 16:09
it doesnt let me download, its just keeps loading
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@TarThoron can you provide me another Download Link?
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nevermind
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TarThoron 2021-10-15 16:12
Not my file. You could try getting the 32-bit version from github. Or use the version that comes packaged with EmoTracker.
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JackSparks 2021-10-15 16:12
it finally downloaded
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idk why it took so long
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ty (edited)
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it connected
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Traylon 2021-10-15 20:22
took a bit for me as well but yea, it solved my problem completely
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Traylon 2021-10-15 21:02
??
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TarThoron 2021-10-15 21:06
Is your rom running? Did you right click the robot head and active lua reading?
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Traylon 2021-10-15 21:07
i was doing that before and it still did it..i stopped trying for a bit then came back and forgot to do that
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but if i do it wrong (which is often) it still says connection refused even if i have LUA reading active and rom running
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Nicholas Steel 2021-10-25 08:29
Make sure you configure the emulator to continue running while the program is not in focus. If emulation pauses the LUA connection is lost. (edited)
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Bionic Jacob 2021-10-25 16:45
So, I'm trying to do some auto tracking for the "Super Metroid and ALLTP Randomizer Map Tracker". Emo tracker is on version 2.3.8.14, and Bizhawk is 2.3.1 I booted up one of the SMZ3 roms I had, and then added the connector lua from the scripts folder It says it connects, but quickly gives an error
ConnectorLib Lua Connector 2.2.0 (LuaSocket 2.0.2) Connection established Warning: Attempted read 8257537 outside memory domain size of 131072 in readbyterange() NLua.Exceptions.LuaScriptException: .\hal.lua:50: bad argument #1 to 'char' (number expected, got nil)
Any idea why this might be happening? (edited)
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(Ping me when your respond please
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So, I'm trying to do some auto tracking for the "Super Metroid and ALLTP Randomizer Map Tracker". Emo tracker is on version 2.3.8.14, and Bizhawk is 2.3.1 I booted up one of the SMZ3 roms I had, and then added the connector lua from the scripts folder It says it connects, but quickly gives an error
ConnectorLib Lua Connector 2.2.0 (LuaSocket 2.0.2) Connection established Warning: Attempted read 8257537 outside memory domain size of 131072 in readbyterange() NLua.Exceptions.LuaScriptException: .\hal.lua:50: bad argument #1 to 'char' (number expected, got nil)
Any idea why this might be happening? (edited)
TarThoron 2021-10-25 19:51
Which core in Bizhawk?
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TarThoron 2021-10-25 20:00
You specifically need to use the BSNES core. No other core will work.
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Bionic Jacob 2021-10-25 22:20
Ah, gotcha
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Etrnal_September 2021-11-02 16:34
I am using Lua auto tracking with snes9x, quite commonly on me autotracking just completely stops working and I have to disconnect and reconnect. not sure if this is a common problem or not. wondering if this is a known issue and if so if there are any recommendations for it. I don't get any error messages the tracker just stops responding.
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this is for alttpr if that matters
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delvan 2021-11-02 16:51
Been having that with smz3 in the same emulator, last run I opened the developer console so I could see if any errors show up there when autotracking stops working...but then I didn't have any issues during that run
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EmoSaru 2021-11-02 17:54
At this point the default recommendation for people having persistent or strange issues like this is to use something like qusb2snes to emulate an sd2snes in your emulator of choice.
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delvan 2021-11-02 17:57
Ah will do, did manage to catch the error in the dev console this run but it looks like its something that was reported under core-bugs before so not that useful for you anyways
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delvan 2021-11-02 20:04
Update: Yeah running snex9x -> lua bridge -> qusb2snes -> EmoTracker is working much better for me
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Etrnal_September 2021-11-02 21:45
Ok thank you
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punkyskunky 2021-11-03 18:47
Hey. Been trying to get auto tracking working. Not sure what I'm doing wrong but I managed to get it so its not displaying anything over the emulation. But it won't change from yellow on the tracker
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TarThoron 2021-11-03 19:24
What emulator?
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Pogopuschel (Skull Hunter888) 2021-11-04 08:21
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Help when i go to the Emotracker Folder, i have no Folder with connectors... So nothing with autotracker... I have emotracker new installed a few times but nothing...
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delvan 2021-11-04 08:35
That's your user emotracker folder where stuff like packs goes, the connectors are in the install folder which is likely C:\Program Files (x86)\EmoTracker for you (edited)
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Pogopuschel (Skull Hunter888) 2021-11-04 08:39
Ohhhhhhh damned 🤦🏻 Thanks @delvan i got it 👍🏻
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delvan 2021-11-04 08:39
No problem!
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Pogopuschel (Skull Hunter888) 2021-11-04 08:41
Okay the next problem 😅
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delvan 2021-11-04 08:43
What emulator?
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Pogopuschel (Skull Hunter888) 2021-11-04 08:43
SNES9x
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delvan 2021-11-04 08:44
Make sure you use the 32-bit version
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Pogopuschel (Skull Hunter888) 2021-11-04 08:44
Oh okay i have the 64-bit. One moment
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Got it 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Now full functional 👍🏻👍🏻
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nature1996 2021-11-04 11:06
Sorry for the double post, but just noticed this section. Not sure where that question would go, but here. I can't open GBC game with Bizhawk 2.4.2 for some reason, and I can't set up the auto-tracker with 2.6.2. Can someone help me with that
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cluekitty 2021-11-04 11:32
the included auto-tracking scripts for bizhawk are for 2.3.x
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The included scripts are the crowd control scripts, so if you want a 2.6.x compatible version of the connector scripts you can search for the crowd control SDK and download those.
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nature1996 2021-11-04 11:36
Can I get a bit more detail? Not sure what file should go where
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cluekitty 2021-11-04 11:37
In the crowd control SDK, there's a folder called ConnectorScripts, like how EmoTracker has one. Those are the files you'll want
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You can put them either in your lua folder for your emulator, or really wherever you want. You'll just use the connector.lua from the SDK instead of the one provided by emotracker
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delvan 2021-11-04 11:39
This is the current crowd control SDK
SDK.7z
11.35 MB
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nature1996 2021-11-04 11:40
I don't really care what emulator I use. Which one, and what version, do you recomand?
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Cool, it works, thanks
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Flesh177 2021-11-12 05:32
what GBA emulator do I have to use to get GBA games autotracking support?
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Rom-Steïn 2021-11-12 06:42
Bizhawk
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With mGBA core
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melink14 2021-11-13 06:03
Just did a alttpr seed for the first time in 3 years and tried autotracking via qusb2snes. It worked well except the delay between in game event and tracking was somewhat variable. Interacting with emotracking manually seemed to catch it up. Eventually it would catch up on its own but I wonder what is normal? Thanks!
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Nicholas Steel 2021-11-13 06:09
It should more or less be in synch with gameplay within 2 seconds
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melink14 2021-11-13 06:13
Good to know! I'll do some more testing in case my setup is weird.
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Nicholas Steel 2021-11-13 06:21
@melink14 If you use Snes9x and wanted to avoid the need for LUA shenanigans to connect to multiworld hosts/Emotracker, you can give Skarsnik's Snes9x-NWA release a shot. It still requires QUSB2SNES but you don't need to open any LUA script in Snes9x: https://github.com/Skarsnik/snes9x-emunwa/releases/ (Warning: Zip includes a default configuration file for Snes9x) In that release of Snes9x you click the Netplay menu and then tick the bottom option. You then select the EmuNetworkAccess and SD2SNES devices in QUSB2SNES. In Emotracker you select SD2SNES for autotracking. Most (if not all of it) is remembered the next time you want to play so resuming/starting a new game is easy. (edited)
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@melink14 If you use Snes9x and wanted to avoid the need for LUA shenanigans to connect to multiworld hosts/Emotracker, you can give Skarsnik's Snes9x-NWA release a shot. It still requires QUSB2SNES but you don't need to open any LUA script in Snes9x: https://github.com/Skarsnik/snes9x-emunwa/releases/ (Warning: Zip includes a default configuration file for Snes9x) In that release of Snes9x you click the Netplay menu and then tick the bottom option. You then select the EmuNetworkAccess and SD2SNES devices in QUSB2SNES. In Emotracker you select SD2SNES for autotracking. Most (if not all of it) is remembered the next time you want to play so resuming/starting a new game is easy. (edited)
melink14 2021-11-13 06:27
Thanks. I'm actually using qusb2snes with an SNES junior + sd2snes device!
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Nicholas Steel 2021-11-13 06:27
No problem. (edited)
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rocky12799 2021-11-23 15:16
okay, so I am so confused right now. I am trying to play Final Fantasy VI randomizer. I have tried multiple versions of BizHawk, using BSNES core and can't get the connector.lua to work with the auto tracker. Emo Tracker shows that it's waiting for the connection from BizHawk but never connects no matter what I do. What version of BizHawk should I be using to be able to auto track? Let's start there. Once I have the right version, if still having issues, I will post my next problem.
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TarThoron 2021-11-23 16:22
With connector.lua that comes with EmoTracker, you have to use v2.3, 2.3.1, or 2.4.2. You can get the Bizhawk SDK from them (or search "sdk" here), and that will come with an updated connector.lua that should work with newer versions, but this is not officially supported. You can also get qusb2snes, run that and turn on its luabridge, and run luabridge.lua in Bizhawk. (Set EmoTracker to read sd2snes). This also isn't officially supported, but is more likely to get support than the SDK version. (You can also use SNI instead of qusb, but you still need the luabridge.lua from qusb). (edited)
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delvan 2021-11-23 16:29
If you are using a new (2.6.x) version of Bizhawk I shared the current (as of a few weeks ago) crowd control SDK a few lines up, the connector.lua in that should work with a new version of Bizhawk if that's what you're on https://discord.com/channels/386961931988369418/549484120263229441/905889011330056212
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Vulpurus 2021-11-23 21:13
So, I'm using BSNES for a SMZ3 randomized run, with the alttp online stuff. Is there a way to get the tracker to connect to BSNES?
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delvan 2021-11-23 22:32
Go to Advanced Settings in the Join a Game window the alttpo scripts produce, and check one of these
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I've only tested it with Qusb2Snes since that's what I normally use to connect to Emotracker, not 100% sure if the other one will work
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(I'm also pretty sure neither of these options is officially supported for Emotracker, just saying Qusb2Snes Bridge from that to Qusb -> Emotracker has worked for me)
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Vulpurus 2021-11-24 05:46
@delvan Worked perfectly, thanks!
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Vulpurus 2021-11-24 09:57
Quick question about the tracker, is there a way to make it swap what map section you're in?
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Or do you have to do it manually
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Lurch9229 2021-11-24 10:24
Manually sadly
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Some pack authors add world map variants because of this
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delvan 2021-11-24 10:26
Yeah I just set mine to show both for SMZ3, I did an override to make that the default so I don't have to manually switch to the both view every time (edited)
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Skyy 2021-11-27 05:42
Hi, I play smz3 mostly, on snes9x v1.6 and for some reason the autotracker just stops tracking after about an hour into the run. I've stopped my anti-virus ransomware but that hasn't helped. Anyone have any idea's/suggestions on how to have the autotracker work an entire run? TIA (edited)
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TarThoron 2021-11-27 08:45
Some people have reported that using qusb and its luabridge.lua instead of connector.lua fixes whatever causes that. Skarsnik has also been working on a new version of snes9x that has network access instead of needing to run lua, similar to how RetroArch or sd2snes works. You enable that under the Netplay menu, and turn on the respective protocol in qusb. https://github.com/Skarsnik/snes9x-emunwa/releases/tag/1.60-emunwa-alpha2
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delvan 2021-11-27 10:08
I've used Skarsnik's version for my last multiworld SMZ3 and my last couple solo seeds and its worked like a charm
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Nicholas Steel 2021-11-27 10:37
Yeah his Snes9x build works fine in multiworld (at least his first alpha does). (edited)
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Skyy 2021-12-02 19:48
@TarThoron Thank you for the Qusb tip, that seems to do the trick. Much appreciated.
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brighteyed77 2021-12-06 12:51
Hi, I am trying to play an ALTTPR open 7/7 seed and when I try to connect emotracker to Bizhawk, I get this error. It was workingh fine forever and this happens every time now. any ideas?
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EmoSaru 2021-12-06 12:54
It says right there. You’re using the wrong Lua core.
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brighteyed77 2021-12-06 13:11
I see that. I dont really have a computer background and don't really know what that means or how to fix that. so any advice would be really helpful.
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TarThoron 2021-12-06 13:12
See the bizhawk instructions in the pins.
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(skip to "after downloading the emulator") (edited)
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brighteyed77 2021-12-06 13:14
thanks for pointing me in the right direction
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Masupups 2021-12-08 18:49
I followed the instructions (also checked the same pin), but am having an entirely different issue. I wasn't sure if it had something to do with my network...? It may be a more common problem but I didn't really find much on it online, nor from what I skimmed here (including keeping it in focus and ensuring I'm using the correct core, etc.) Bizhawk v2.3 and Latest EmoTracker pictured Did I miss something obvious...? Thank you very much in advance. <3 (edited)
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I followed the instructions (also checked the same pin), but am having an entirely different issue. I wasn't sure if it had something to do with my network...? It may be a more common problem but I didn't really find much on it online, nor from what I skimmed here (including keeping it in focus and ensuring I'm using the correct core, etc.) Bizhawk v2.3 and Latest EmoTracker pictured Did I miss something obvious...? Thank you very much in advance. <3 (edited)
Masupups 2021-12-08 19:03
Uh... sorry to waste your time reading that but it was a thing using SD2SNES, but Lua worked just fine. I hope this at least helped in some way. Everything is solid now! Thanks again.
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TarThoron
See the bizhawk instructions in the pins.
brighteyed77 2021-12-09 18:45
That totally worked. Thanks for taking the time answer my question. I appreciate it.
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ChaoticUnreal 2021-12-12 09:07
are there directions (is it even possible) to get autotracking working with retroarch?
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delvan 2021-12-12 09:09
I just did a search for 'retroarch' in the search for this discord and saw a ton of results, I'd look at that (edited)
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Or look at the pins, one of those is for retroarch
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ChaoticUnreal 2021-12-12 09:16
thanks the pinned comment worked
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Rom-Steïn 2021-12-14 05:41
Hello. I know the question has been asked a lot about using autotracker through connector.lua and Bizhawk, and I know that, since it uses the crowd control script, it is only compatible until Bizhawk 2.4.2. By searching on this server, I found that there's an updated script, which I downloaded, and indeed works up until 2.6.X. My problem is that, now, Bizhawk is on 2.7... Does someone know if the crowd control script (used by the autotracker) has been updated as well for 2.7 ?
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TarThoron 2021-12-14 06:42
I would assume the one from the crowd control SDK has been updated. Only one way to find out.
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Rom-Steïn 2021-12-14 07:11
the SDK is indeed the archive I downloaded from here while searching for a solution However, I don't have SDK's discord server, if there's one
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TarThoron 2021-12-14 09:08
The crowd control SDK is maintained by the people at Warp World https://discord.warp.world/
Join the Warp World Discord Server!
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Rom-Steïn 2021-12-14 09:13
thanks !
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Ezzelin 2021-12-14 23:04
Is there any way to autotrack multiple emulators on the same computer? I've been trying a few things but haven't gotten it to work yet. (edited)
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TarThoron 2021-12-14 23:13
I think you could have one instance reading lua and another reading sd2snes (qusb2snes), but that's it.
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goldenspacedragon 2021-12-18 05:07
I know that the Map tracker for Fusion is still being worked on, but is there one for Zero Mission yet?
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goldenspacedragon 2021-12-18 05:24
(Correction, there is currently none)
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MuffinJets 2021-12-18 06:01
Actually, I did make a pack for ZM at one point, but I took it down for a number of reasons The logic is very broken, but you're welcome to use it as a checklist (edited)
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Anyone's got my blessing to fix it up and republish it too, as long as you credit me if it resembles what it looks like now
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Murphy0749 2021-12-18 20:30
I wanted to ask about autotracking for snes9x
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TarThoron 2021-12-18 20:32
Several ways to do it, though none with the basic version.
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Murphy0749 2021-12-18 20:36
okay, this is the first time I am using autotracker
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The Package I am using is CodeTracker for ALTTPR
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TarThoron 2021-12-18 21:02
What package you're running doesn't matter, as long as it supports autotracking in general. The officially supported method is in the pins. I recommend using this version of snes9x. It can do the officially supported connector.lua, connecting to qusb2snes or SNI with luabridge.lua (comes with qusb), or the new (alpha) network access connection with qusb. https://github.com/Skarsnik/snes9x-emunwa/releases/tag/1.60-emunwa-alpha2 (edited)
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Murphy0749 2021-12-18 21:14
I don't have Alpha2 (edited)
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Murphy0749 2021-12-18 21:28
I downloaded it now
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Nicholas Steel 2021-12-19 09:47
Could the pin for setting up Snes9x be updated to link to the latest v1.60 release?
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Or to the latest snes9x-emunwa release from Skarsnik (based on Snes9x v1.60) which eliminates the need to mess with LUA scripts when setting up auto-tracking. If you decide to go with this idea I can tell you what changes need to be made to the instructions. (edited)
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EmoSaru 2021-12-19 09:59
Feel free to write a new post, and I will pin it.
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delvan 2021-12-19 10:32
Really straightforward with Skarsnik's NWA enabled version: Run QUSB2SNES, EmoTracker and snes9x-emunwa, Turn on Emu Network Control in the Netplay menu in snes9x, turn on SD2SNES autotracking in EmoTracker (click the robot in the bottom right)
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You will only need to check that option in snes9x-emunwa the first time you use it
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It'll stay checked in the future
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Nicholas Steel 2021-12-19 10:33
Guide to Autotracker Setup (Snes9x-nwa) - Download the latest QUSB2SNES "asset" from https://github.com/Skarsnik/QUsb2snes/releases (8~MB 7z file for Windows, 22MB dmg file for Macintosh). - Download the latest snes9x-1.60-nwa "asset" from https://github.com/Skarsnik/snes9x-emunwa/releases (2.6~MB 7z file). - Extract the snes9x-1.60-nwa emulator and associated files into a new folder. - Extract QUSB2SNES and associated files into a new folder. - If the above files can't be opened/extracted than download & install 7zip from https://www.7-zip.org/download.html Now that you've extracted everything necessary: - Open Emotracker with a package that supports autotracking. Right click on the robot in the bottom right corner and set it to "SD2SNES", then start the autotracking. (it'll come up yellow, that's okay) - Open QUSB2SNES, you'll notice an icon appear in the right side of the Taskbar indicating the program is running. If this is your first time using this program you will need to configure some settings: Right-click the application icon in the Taskbar and in the Devices menu enable "EmuNetworkAccess" and "SD2SNES". - Open snes9x-nwa and start the game, then on the menu bar click Netplay > Enable Emu Network Control. This may trigger an alert from QUSB2SNES and your Firewall asking for permission to connect, click Yes/Allow. - If everything is working correctly the Autotracking icon in Emotracker will change from yellow, to cyan. Cyan means the connection between the emulator and Emotracker has been successfully established. - Enjoy playing your game while Emotracker tracks what you're doing in the game. Note: If you intend to run LUA scripts, you'll instead want to follow these instructions: https://discord.com/channels/386961931988369418/549484120263229441/558379221609873422 (edited)
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EmoSaru 2021-12-19 10:38
Pinned a message.
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Murphy0749 2021-12-21 23:15
sadly got this error message
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Nicholas Steel 2021-12-21 23:19
That usally means you're running the 64bit release, that they've confusingly listed as Snes9x 32_x64 on github (technically it's correct naming but to a laymen it's not so easily understood) (edited)
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Murphy0749 2021-12-21 23:20
my computer was meant for 64bit
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Nicholas Steel 2021-12-21 23:21
Yeah and 64bit windows also runs 32bit software.
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Snes9x 64bit can't use some DLL's that are designed for 32bit Snes9x.
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Murphy0749 2021-12-21 23:22
so just use the 32bit version should work
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Nicholas Steel 2021-12-21 23:23
Either you follow my Snes9x-NWA setup guide above and avoid the need for messing with LUA scripts (if you only want to have Emotracker autotracking), or you follow the Snes9x-RR guide which will allow autotracking and the abliity to run other LUA scripts if desired. Both Snes9x-NWA (64bit) and Snes9x-RR (32bit) setup guides are in the pinned messages in this channel. (edited)
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Murphy0749 2021-12-22 00:04
Its works fine with the 32bit version
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although, I guess I still have to do some stuff manual still
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TarThoron 2021-12-22 02:32
Most packs do still require some manual tracking. In LttP packs, that's gonna be dungeon prizes, medallion requirements, number of needed crystals if fast GT/Ganon or Ped Goal are on. These are all things that could technically be auto tracked, but there's no way to check if you've checked your overworld map or gotten to the dungeons to check that stuff, so it would give you knowledge you shouldn't have yet, and that's a no no.
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Ezzelin 2021-12-23 03:02
Does Snes9x-NWA work fine with SNI as well? I think it's supposed to but I can't seem to get them to talk to each other. (edited)
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Ezzelin 2021-12-23 03:26
I've tried both the 32 and 64 bit versions of SNI as well.
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I never got a firewall alert from Snes9x-NWA though. I'm using Comodo firewall which generally alerts me whenever anything wants network access. I manually gave it full access but nothing changed.
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Nicholas Steel 2021-12-23 03:48
Unsure, @Skarsnik would know though since it's his branch of Snes9x. (I wrote a guide for setting up Autotracking with your branch of Snes9x Skarsnik, it's pinned here) (edited)
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Skarsnik 2021-12-23 06:35
You need to activate the nwa support in the netplay menu. I don't know if SNI support nwa yet thou (qusb does)
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Ezzelin 2021-12-23 13:48
It looks like SNI supports Retroarch but perhaps that's a different protocol.
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TarThoron 2021-12-23 13:49
It is.
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Lzone 2021-12-24 06:25
someone know the option to diseable the spoiler ?
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MeleeWizard 2021-12-24 06:45
Disable what spoiler?
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Slumber Jack 2021-12-24 23:12
For ALttPR auto-tracker: any advice on how to get it to not just give up? It tends to stop auto-tracking as early as 5 minutes in. SNES9x, Lua Scripting. Consistent across three different machines. Are there specific settings I should be using?
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delvan 2021-12-24 23:14
Common issue and most common work around is to use QUSB2SNES and its own lua connector (or, now, Skarsnik's snes9x that has NWA support so you don't need any lua scripts to talk to qusb2snes)
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With qusb2snes you just tell emotracker its an sd2snes connection instead of lua
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Slumber Jack 2021-12-24 23:15
aight I'll look it up
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delvan 2021-12-24 23:15
check the pins in this channel for the nwa skarsnik version
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Slumber Jack 2021-12-24 23:26
hmmm I must be missing a step in here
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I've extracted everything, but "Open QUSB2SNES" I am not sure how to do
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delvan 2021-12-24 23:29
To open a program?
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Slumber Jack 2021-12-24 23:29
there's no like, .exe or anything
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delvan 2021-12-24 23:30
QUsb2Snes-0.7.21.3.7z?
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its a 7z archive file, you unzip it somewhere
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Slumber Jack 2021-12-24 23:30
https://github.com/Skarsnik/QUsb2snes
GitHub - Skarsnik/QUsb2snes: A Qt based webserver for usb2snes. USE...
A Qt based webserver for usb2snes. USERS go to usb2snes.com - GitHub - Skarsnik/QUsb2snes: A Qt based webserver for usb2snes. USERS go to usb2snes.com
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I downloaded from there
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extracted to desktop
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delvan 2021-12-24 23:31
Downloaded what?
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Slumber Jack 2021-12-24 23:31
oh I may have downloaded the code
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delvan 2021-12-24 23:31
Yeah you don't want the code probably, use the link in the pin or click on releases from the main github page for qusb2snes there
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Slumber Jack 2021-12-24 23:31
ok where in the link in the pin is the download link
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I could not find it, I had to google how to download something from github and that's what I got
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delvan 2021-12-24 23:32
- Download the latest QUSB2SNES "asset" from https://github.com/Skarsnik/QUsb2snes/releases (8~MB 7z file for Windows, 22MB dmg file for Macintosh).
Releases · Skarsnik/QUsb2snes
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Its the very first line in the pin
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QUsb2Snes-0.7.21.3.7z if you are on windows, I assume the .dmg is the mac version
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Slumber Jack 2021-12-24 23:33
ok I don't use github AT ALL, so bear with me
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delvan 2021-12-24 23:34
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If you clicked the link it should take you the top of this page
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Click Assets
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Slumber Jack 2021-12-24 23:34
that's it
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that's what I was missing was the drop down
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or maybe not, hm
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delvan 2021-12-24 23:36
Are you on windows or mac or something else
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Slumber Jack 2021-12-24 23:36
windows
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delvan 2021-12-24 23:37
QUsb2Snes-0.7.21.3.7z and unzip that wherever you want qusb2snes to live
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Slumber Jack 2021-12-24 23:37
so I download it and it's an unreadable file
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that can't be unzipped
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Windows does not know what it is (edited)
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delvan 2021-12-24 23:38
Then whatever you use to open archives doesn't know what a 7z file is
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I use 7-zip if you just want a "use this and it will open it" (edited)
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But there should be plenty of unzippers that can open a 7z, its been around a while
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TarThoron 2021-12-24 23:39
https://www.7-zip.org/download.html Windows/WinZip should recognize .7z files, but if it doesn't, that will.
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delvan 2021-12-24 23:41
That snes9x version you would download in step 2 of that pin is also going to be archived in a 7z so definitely get something that can open 7z, and yeah what TarThoron linked to is what I use (for all my archive stuff, not just 7z) (edited)
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Slumber Jack 2021-12-24 23:43
so I downloaded 7zip, and it seems the files are recognised as something but I still can't do anything with them
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wait I think I found it
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delvan 2021-12-24 23:44
If you installed 7-zip it normally will add some right-click context menu options for speed, like 7-zip -> Extract here or 7-zip -> Extract all to ...
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Slumber Jack 2021-12-24 23:44
yeah that was it, I was looking for Extract All, didn't expect the new option
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TarThoron 2021-12-24 23:45
Might have to use "Open With..." for the first time
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When you first open qusb, aside from a security popup, you won't see much happen. It puts its icon in the system tray, and you right click that for the controls.
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Slumber Jack 2021-12-24 23:49
yeah gotta set up SNES9X all over again since it's a new version, doing some testing
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delvan 2021-12-24 23:51
Its a little work but Skarsniks version once you set it up, you never have to go to that lua -> load script stuff every time you open it
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It remembers you enabled the emu network access once and it stays and and just starts whenever you start snes9x
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Slumber Jack 2021-12-24 23:52
almost there, I have everything but it actually working. I bet I'm missing the right click step
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delvan 2021-12-24 23:54
I can hop on a discord call if you want to screen share for help walking through it if you're still getting stuck
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Slumber Jack 2021-12-24 23:55
I'm ok with that
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delvan 2021-12-24 23:56
No voice channels on this server, Swag Duck on the ALTTPR discord?
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Slumber Jack 2021-12-24 23:56
see you over there
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we're up and running! Thanks all
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delvan 2021-12-25 00:05
In case someone else following the pin gets stuck and finds this convo in search terms, it was the right click on QUSB2SNES in the taskbar to turn on the EmuNetworkAccess, then EmoTracker needed a little F5 love to recognize the connection was there since it'd had Start hit before the other side of things was set up
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Nicholas Steel 2021-12-25 20:23
Okay I added to the instructions a mention of needing 7zip to extract the files you download. Mostly useful for people on older versions of Windows as I believe Windows 10 and newer can handle 7z files. (edited)
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Lord_Lore 2021-12-26 01:43
Is there a way to see what specific issues are causing the red robot? I literally haven't touched emotracker or my emulator in the last two days and was gonna continue a seed, but emotracker can't seem to get a connection (using SD2SNES and QUsb2snes). It all worked on Friday, so I assume I messed up a step somewhere but all related bits of software are reporting correctly, except emptracker which throws a red robot at me and doesn't track anything
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fwiw, the dev console just shows successfully loaded scripts 🤷
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Lord_Lore 2021-12-26 03:16
reboot fixed it, might still be worth looking into, I'll keep an eye on it and report back if it occurs again
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Yazzy8 2021-12-31 09:26
i need help trying to set up the auto tracker, when i right click the robot and click lua the bot turns yellow and not cyan and im pretty sure i have to use lua because im using bizhawk (edited)
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Yazzy8 2021-12-31 09:39
and when i try to load it it prompts me with this
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delvan 2021-12-31 09:43
If you're not going to use BizHawk 2.3.1, you can't use the pre-packaged crowd control lua bridge, you need to download the crowd control SDK that goes with whatever version of BizHawk you're going to use (edited)
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Or use QUSB2SNES with its luabridge, and tell EmoTracker you're doing SD2SNES instead of lua
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Yazzy8 2021-12-31 09:44
Alright
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delvan 2021-12-31 09:45
(I've had much better luck with the latter route but thats in snes9x, no clue if BizHawk encounters the issues I used to have going the crowd control route)
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Slumber Jack 2022-01-21 21:12
Did something change recently? I restarted my computer this morning and suddenly auto tracking doesn't work for ALttPR
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EmoSaru 2022-01-21 23:04
I literally just used autotracking for ALTTPR just now.
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In what way does it not work for you? (edited)
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Slumber Jack 2022-01-23 13:12
I am not sure. Every time I restart my computer I have to uninstall/reinstall everything to get it working again
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yeah it's weird, works fine if I nuke it and then unzip all the files again to the same places
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EmoSaru 2022-01-23 15:55
That's very bizarre. You may want to try using it via sd2snes emulation using something like qusb2snes
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Spyder0318 2022-01-24 16:31
can someone help me get the tracker set up. i looked online and it said i needed snes9x-rr so i downloaded that but there was no actual emulator
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i have the vanilla snes9x
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EmoSaru 2022-01-24 16:33
There are pinned messages in this channel describing setup processes for a number of emulator options.
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Spyder0318 2022-01-24 16:34
ok thanks
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seabass223 2022-01-26 14:30
hi I'm completely new here, been using emotracker with alttp for a few years. 16 years dev xp. would love to help on autotracker support for alttp dungeons & auto-pinning. Maybe even make a PR for it on github. Any kick off on where to start would be super helpful. (until then I'm starting in at autotracking.lua) (edited)
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EmoSaru 2022-01-26 14:47
The reason my pack does not support it is because it’s not race legal, not because it can’t be done.
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It’s easy to do.
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I just won’t.
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seabass223 2022-01-26 14:49
Is it legal to make my own modifications for my own purposes? If so, is autotracking.lua the correct place to make my modifications?
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EmoSaru 2022-01-26 14:51
You can export an override and do whatever you want. You just can't use it in races if you do anything that's not race legal.
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Bear in mind that for ALTTPR in particular, there are memory address ranges that are not allowed to be read from for anti-cheat reasons.
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But there's quite a lot that can be done within the bounds of what's available.
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seabass223 2022-01-26 14:54
Understood. My end goal is just to learn a bit of lua and experiment in some fashion with a game that I love and grew up with. Emotracker is really incredible. (edited)
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seabass223
Understood. My end goal is just to learn a bit of lua and experiment in some fashion with a game that I love and grew up with. Emotracker is really incredible. (edited)
MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2022-01-26 18:56
I recommend looking at the source code for @codemann8's ALttPR pack.
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It pushes the limits, lol.
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Feco 2022-01-29 11:17
I'm trying to setup autotracker for an FXPak Pro setup and I am having some difficulty, in part because different documentations say different things. To be clear, the firmware needed is the same as the standard firmware used on the SD2SNES website, right?
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EmoSaru 2022-01-29 11:43
You need the usb2snes firmware.
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Theoretically the beta 1.11 firmware contains that
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But I haven’t tested the beta firmware
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Feco 2022-01-29 12:18
Thank you
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Selene 2022-01-31 15:13
Is there any reason there is no Ocarina of Time autotracker? Thinking of learning the game, and will not have a mouse/keyboard during runs to track myself.
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PolychromeVirus 2022-01-31 15:15
emotracker doesnt support n64 autotracking in general im p sure
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Selene 2022-01-31 15:25
A future task, something not cared about, or something impossible?
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Selene 2022-01-31 15:49
Has OoT's SRAM been mapped out?
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EmoSaru 2022-01-31 16:00
For one, it would be emulator-only, out of necessity.
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For two, when you get to the N64 era, you get into the world of heap allocated objects.
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Whereas in the SNES and earlier eras RAM layouts are largely static, as you move into the 32 bit era, they become more dynamic, and start requiring things like pointer following
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This makes the types of facilities that pack authors would potentially need to do it much more complicated to service.
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I have plans for the future that would allow somebody to do it if they cared, using an external app
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But no ETA for that
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Selene 2022-01-31 16:11
Ah. I started looking into it, finding how and where they store opened chests, but with as little free time I have, it will take some time to get done, as I need to play and visit each room in the game.
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Selene 2022-01-31 16:28
I will have to check to see if those addresses have shifted, or changed, when I load it back up next, or reset a few times.
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Selene 2022-01-31 16:40
Thinking about the 2 part address now, this could tear things down, but to shift the room data, they all must be shifted, and there must be a marker or patter to ground things to
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Selene 2022-01-31 17:12
Or those dynamic variable address are stored somewhere. My talents only really lie in tracking such things down... It is the later parts that I do not know how to do yet.
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EmoSaru 2022-01-31 17:16
Just a heads up, this type of investigation discussion is best done in the discord for the game, as it doesn’t relate to currently supported EmoTracker features.
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Saturn 2022-02-01 06:52
Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, I've been poking around this discord and the alttpr one for an answer: will the autotracker always override manually marked locations/chests? eg., I marked something I saw but wasn't interested in picking up as "checked", the autotracker overwrites that a short while later, presumably after seeing it in RAM.
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TarThoron 2022-02-01 08:17
Right click instead of left click and autotracking ignores that spot.
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Saturn 2022-02-01 10:28
ah, thank you. sorry for asking such a basic question 🙂
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Selene
Is there any reason there is no Ocarina of Time autotracker? Thinking of learning the game, and will not have a mouse/keyboard during runs to track myself.
MuffinJets 2022-02-01 10:41
https://github.com/coavins/EmoTrackerPacks
GitHub - coavins/EmoTrackerPacks: OoT Rando Map Autotracker pack fo...
OoT Rando Map Autotracker pack for EmoTracker. Contribute to coavins/EmoTrackerPacks development by creating an account on GitHub.
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It was kinda hacked together and there are/will be better solutions but that one works really well for me personally
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EmoSaru 2022-02-01 12:09
Be advised that that modification appears to be lying and saying that the game platform is snes. That may happen to work in SOME cases with a particular emulator's handling of the Lua side of things, but any changes - including, tbh, fixes that should probably be made - to the emulator, the Lua scripts loaded into the emulator, OR EmoTracker's SNES connector, would quite easily break it entirely. So, that's what I would describe as "violently unsupported" behavior.
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delvan 2022-02-01 12:20
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A little bit of this then? XD
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EmoSaru 2022-02-01 12:20
No, because there's literally a nuclear bomb in that code and I'm the one holding the detonator.
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Selene
Is there any reason there is no Ocarina of Time autotracker? Thinking of learning the game, and will not have a mouse/keyboard during runs to track myself.
goldenspacedragon 2022-02-02 22:12
If it’s any consolation, the 3DS version of ZOoTR has a menu (that you can set to an unused button in its config) that is a tracker, so that’s nice Requires homebrew set up, tho, so if you don’t have that don’t bother with this (edited)
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You specifically need to use the BSNES core. No other core will work.
sacredsilveryoshi 2022-02-06 21:28
I'd like to thank you. I was having this problem as well, and you'd already solved it
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Dragozan 2022-02-12 02:50
Hey guys. I seem to be having some trouble in recent streams with my autotracker lagging? I usually notice it catching up after a save and quit, but it can sometimes take up to 5 minutes to even update. Ive been trying to establish a pattern as to why it's happening, but I'm not 100% don't suppose anyone could quickly run through a few things I could check before my next stream? Many thanks in advance 🙂
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delvan 2022-02-12 09:36
My autotracking stopped being droppy when I switched to Skarsnik's emu-nwa beta and qusb2snes instead of using a lua-based connection (check the most recent pin in this channel)
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My autotracking stopped being droppy when I switched to Skarsnik's emu-nwa beta and qusb2snes instead of using a lua-based connection (check the most recent pin in this channel)
Dragozan 2022-02-12 10:46
Thanks for the suggestion. I shall look into it later 🙂
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MuffinJets 2022-02-13 11:17
SNI is also a great option
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Lou Snowfang 2022-02-13 22:04
I'm running into an issue with autotracking Minish Cap. I'm doing the same thing I've always done, but on a different machine and getting an error stating that Crowd Control, a program I haven't downloaded or even used, requires BizHawk ver. 2.3 or 2.3.1. I'm only using EmoTracker and BizHawk with the autotracker for Minish Cap. Does anyone know why this is happening and how to fix it? Examining the connector file doesn't show any text regarding Crowd Control, so I think this is a problem with BizHawk. I'm using the 64bit Windows version of 2.8.
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EmoSaru 2022-02-13 22:40
EmoTracker uses the same underlying Lua scripting stuff for connecting to the emulator as CrowdControl.
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TarThoron 2022-02-13 22:47
And that lua scripting is version specific for Bizhawk, though 2.4.x should also work with the scripts that come with EmoTracker. Support for newer versions would need the latest Crowd Control SDK (https://crowd-control-sdk.s3.amazonaws.com/SDK.7z). You can also use a bridge like qusb2snes or SNI instead of connecting directly to EmoTracker. The only officially supported connection for Bizhawk is to use the included scripts with a compatible version.
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Squiggles (They/She)[AnCo] 2022-02-14 15:22
OK so, I checked the pinned messages and didn't see the answer to my question there so I'd like to put it forth! So basically, I set up emotracker and it's working as intended for most games, but my inverted alttp run doesn't seem to be working, as it only displays items able to be found in the light world. The inventory tracking works, but the actual boxes aren't showing up on the dark world side of the map. I downloaded the official emotracker ALTTP support package and I can see in there there's an inverted Standard Tracker, so I don't know if I need to like specifically activate that or if so how to do that, so basically I'm wondering if there's some steps I'm missing for getting it to run with Inverted world runs
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EmoSaru 2022-02-14 15:24
When you select the pack via the gear menu, there is an expanding list of variants for that pack. You need to pick the appropriate one for the mode you're playing.
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Squiggles (They/She)[AnCo] 2022-02-14 15:24
Oh yup that was exactly it! Thank you so much
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Lurch9229 2022-02-14 15:25
you can also right click the folder in the bottom right to change variants (edited)
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Lou Snowfang
I'm running into an issue with autotracking Minish Cap. I'm doing the same thing I've always done, but on a different machine and getting an error stating that Crowd Control, a program I haven't downloaded or even used, requires BizHawk ver. 2.3 or 2.3.1. I'm only using EmoTracker and BizHawk with the autotracker for Minish Cap. Does anyone know why this is happening and how to fix it? Examining the connector file doesn't show any text regarding Crowd Control, so I think this is a problem with BizHawk. I'm using the 64bit Windows version of 2.8.
Deoxis 2022-02-19 04:58
https://minish.deoxis9001.tk/en/tracking.html 😉 normally this is not a problem but if we learn that the emotracker has been modified you might not be able to participate to the minish cap race 😉
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Lou Snowfang
I'm running into an issue with autotracking Minish Cap. I'm doing the same thing I've always done, but on a different machine and getting an error stating that Crowd Control, a program I haven't downloaded or even used, requires BizHawk ver. 2.3 or 2.3.1. I'm only using EmoTracker and BizHawk with the autotracker for Minish Cap. Does anyone know why this is happening and how to fix it? Examining the connector file doesn't show any text regarding Crowd Control, so I think this is a problem with BizHawk. I'm using the 64bit Windows version of 2.8.
Rom-Steïn 2022-02-19 05:13
Idk what you meant by version 2.8 because Bizhawk's last version is 2.7, and emotracker's last version is 2.3.8.15. If you're using a development build of Bizhawk (currently 2.8-RC1 ?) there is no guarantee it will work as it is not a stable version. Also, since someone mentioned the corwd control updated scripts, those are only compatible up to Bizhawk 2.6.x, so they will sitll not work with the last bizhawk versions. And, since deoxis mentioned it, you aren't allowed to modify the package or emotracker, but, using the crowd control connector to make the autotracker compatible shouldn't be an issue since you aren't modifying neither Bizhawk, nor Emotracker, nor the tracker package. I am, however, not a moderator for this game and can't give a definitive answer, but I'm not sure they are even aware you can use that connector to expand the bizhawk versions compatibility (even though it has been mentioned on the tmcr server).
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goldenspacedragon 2022-02-19 10:50
This makes me wonder just changing even one picture of the package means it's not usable??
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https://minish.deoxis9001.tk/en/tracking.html 😉 normally this is not a problem but if we learn that the emotracker has been modified you might not be able to participate to the minish cap race 😉
Lou Snowfang 2022-02-19 11:10
I have neither the skill nor desire to modify EmoTracker in any way. I might just chalk it up to a fluke in Bizhawk/EmoTracker/the tracker I use, actually copy over the working installation of Bizhawk and call it a day. Even though I'm not particularly fast at MC, it'd suck to be barred from racing cause of weird interactions between code.
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TarThoron 2022-02-22 15:04
What Bizhawk core should you use for autotracking NES emulation? The pinned instructions are only for SNES (BSNES core).
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EmoSaru 2022-02-22 15:13
I'm actually not 100% certain - it's been a while since I tested the NES cores in particular. If anybody knows the answer, it'd be great to post it here and I will pin it. It should either be QuickNES or NesHawk
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TarThoron 2022-02-22 15:24
The FF1R instructions (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DWKrsDH-jj1GRZvPWKcH9-DX4QXsGOCoxBUKXUevmC0/edit?usp=sharing) don't mention a core. 😕 But those are at least a start for people wanting to track on NES.
FFR EmoTracker FAQ
FFR EmoTracker FAQ What are the minimum requirements to use the tracker? 1 What are the requirements to use autotracking? 2 How do I start autotracking? 3 How do I only display incentive locations? 5 What do the colours mean? 5 How do I select which locations are incentivized? 5 I have X why ca...
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EmoSaru 2022-02-22 15:24
Pinned a message.
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If they don't mention a core, it likely means that the default works, which would be QuickNES
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Palmenkott 2022-03-04 04:45
Hey! I'm running the EmoTracker Official ALTTPR Support Standard Map Tracker and when I pick up non progressive silver arrows the autotracker gives me the full set with bow and all, giving me bow locations on the map tracker. How do I prevent this? 🙂 Thank you!
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Hey! I'm running the EmoTracker Official ALTTPR Support Standard Map Tracker and when I pick up non progressive silver arrows the autotracker gives me the full set with bow and all, giving me bow locations on the map tracker. How do I prevent this? 🙂 Thank you!
MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2022-03-04 08:21
I believe that left- or right-clicking the Bow spot will eventually toggle just Silvers (with no Bow).
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TarThoron 2022-03-04 09:02
I think you might have to do an override to put the silvers-no-bow item back in.
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Palmenkott 2022-03-04 09:30
Alright! I have tried to remove it entirely, but the autotracker puts it back in soon after. Right clicking I have not tried though! Thanks!
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Palmenkott
Hey! I'm running the EmoTracker Official ALTTPR Support Standard Map Tracker and when I pick up non progressive silver arrows the autotracker gives me the full set with bow and all, giving me bow locations on the map tracker. How do I prevent this? 🙂 Thank you!
EmoSaru 2022-03-04 10:36
Are you using the latest version of the pack, and if so, do you have any overrides exporter? I will take a look at this soon to verify that things are working as expected.
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Are you using the latest version of the pack, and if so, do you have any overrides exporter? I will take a look at this soon to verify that things are working as expected.
Palmenkott 2022-03-05 08:19
Oh, it actually seems to have been resolved simply by downloading the latest update 🙂 Thanks!
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SlayerOfThe7 2022-03-14 14:36
Im having trouble setting up the autotracker for Metroid Fusion, Im using the UltiNaruto item tracker and Bizhawk Emulator but I'm not finding any help on how to connect the two
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cluekitty 2022-03-14 14:54
you'll need to run the connector lua script in bizhawk and then from the robot icon, click "start" in emotracker. The included lua script with emotracker should be C:\Program Files (x86)\EmoTracker\Connectors\bizhawk\connector.lua, but that only supports up to bizhawk 2.4. If you need something that supports a newer bizhawk, you can download the latest version of the crowd control SDK that TharThoron linked in his message: https://discord.com/channels/386961931988369418/549484120263229441/942673419793743892
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SlayerOfThe7 2022-03-14 15:10
that version only supports up to version 2.6, and i got version 2.8
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cluekitty 2022-03-14 15:10
Then, you'll have to downgrade to a supported version, unfortunately
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EmoSaru doesn't maintain the Crowd Control scripts, so it's out of her control to keep that updated. If you want a newer version of bizhawk supported, you'll have to reach out to the Crowd Control devs to see if they'll implement support for 2.7+
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EmoSaru 2022-03-14 15:46
Technically, there are updated versions that will apparently work with emotracker if you download the crowdcontrol SDK from them.
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But I am still in progress on completely replacing the autotracker infrastructure to work a different way.
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So I'm not taking more updates from them.
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Tenshi 2022-03-17 11:36
Okay. Dummy-noob to getting autotracker going. I'm coming back from a LONG time away from Rando- what should I grab, emu-wise? I'm gonna assume my old higan's not gonna cut it. (RIP byuu)
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TarThoron 2022-03-17 12:16
I would look through the pins and decide which you like. I believe Bizhawk is closest to Higan.
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Fouton (PugHUD) 2022-03-18 05:54
To be clear with the Bizhawk pin, I believe you're going to specifically need Bizhawk 2.3.0, 2.3.1, or 2.4.0. later Bizhawk is a nogo
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Anything beyond that, while doable, takes a lot of work to set up properly
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ミシウス 2022-03-18 17:15
so i'm trying to set up autotracking for smz3, and i get this error "error loading module 'socket.core' from file '.\socket.dll': %1 is not a valid Win32 application." (edited)
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TarThoron 2022-03-18 17:33
You need to use the 32-bit version of snes9x-rr. Or use the version that comes with EmoTracker. Or use this version: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QN3SvqOGJdRqvCGcCE_7INchOhfLamrb/view
snes9x-rr-1.60-win32-multitroid2-r5.zip
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ミシウス 2022-03-18 18:27
well, that was it. how do i turn off this frame counter?
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TarThoron 2022-03-18 18:32
, or .
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ミシウス 2022-03-18 18:59
thx
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Dragozan 2022-03-24 12:54
apologies for my ignorance, but in regards to the latest update to Emotracker allowing for an offline connection for auto-tracking: is this still achieved via the usual Lua connection method?
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TarThoron 2022-03-24 12:55
Yes. The only change is that you no longer need an active internet connection to initiate autotracking.
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Dragozan 2022-03-24 12:56
awesome 🙂 Nice and straight-forward then. Thanks for the quick response
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Robbeas03 2022-03-28 23:24
Hi, I was wondering if anyone can help me out with an error im getting when trying to do the auto-tracking.
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nevermind, i found my answer in the chat history. thank you.
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BootsinSoots 2022-03-29 10:47
Ok, I need help. I'm using BizHawk 2.8 If that's the issue, then I'll end my chain here
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But I can't find any documentation for how to connect EmoTracker's DASH autotracker for Super Metroid to BizHawk through the Lua console. All the scripts I've tried have failed
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TarThoron 2022-03-29 10:56
For 2.8 you'll need the latest Crowd Control SDK. The script included with EmoTracker only supports Bizhawk 2.3.x and some 2.4.x.
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BootsinSoots 2022-03-29 10:57
Where do I find that
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TarThoron 2022-03-29 10:57
https://crowd-control-sdk.s3.amazonaws.com/SDK.7z
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BootsinSoots 2022-03-29 10:58
Ok, what I want is the connector lua in the connector folder?
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Because it didn't work
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TarThoron 2022-03-29 11:03
Looks like even the CC connector only supports up to 2.6.1 right now
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BootsinSoots 2022-03-29 11:04
Got it. Guess I'll go without. Thanks!
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TarThoron 2022-03-29 11:04
So your options are downgrade Bizhawk to a supported version, or use QUSB2SNES or SNI as a bridge between Bizhawk and Emo. (edited)
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BootsinSoots 2022-03-29 11:04
SNI?
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I think I'm using that, as I'm plugged into Archipelago
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TarThoron 2022-03-29 11:06
Super Nintendo Interface. Use the connector script that comes with SNI, and set EmoTracker to read sd2snes, not lua.
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Obviously SNI needs to be running too.
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BootsinSoots 2022-03-29 11:07
got it
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Kevie_Kevster 2022-03-31 10:04
Hello everyone I am a noob when it comes to emo tracker. I have downloaded snes9x-rr-32 and have downloaded emotracker. I have followed every step but there is a catch. Catch 1, the robot icon is not showing up for me at the bottom right. Catch 2 when I go to connect the game through the connector in lua. It says Failed to open socket: Connection refused. What am I doing wrong here? (edited)
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Also apologies if I posted the question in the wrong channel.
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Hello everyone I am a noob when it comes to emo tracker. I have downloaded snes9x-rr-32 and have downloaded emotracker. I have followed every step but there is a catch. Catch 1, the robot icon is not showing up for me at the bottom right. Catch 2 when I go to connect the game through the connector in lua. It says Failed to open socket: Connection refused. What am I doing wrong here? (edited)
MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2022-03-31 10:21
1: Which pack? Does it support autotracking?
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Kevie_Kevster 2022-03-31 10:38
I figured it out. I had the wrong pack. I am so sorry
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MrKarato 2022-04-01 20:14
Is there a way to make EmoTracker detect checks in dungeons in ALTTPR?
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TarThoron 2022-04-01 20:19
The pack from EmoSaru won't, because it's compliant with racing rules. Pretty sure Codeman's pack does. (edited)
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The pack from EmoSaru won't, because it's compliant with racing rules. Pretty sure Codeman's pack does. (edited)
MrKarato 2022-04-01 20:24
You are right, wish EmoSaru's worked for that, it's nicer looking >.> Ty (edited)
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You are right, wish EmoSaru's worked for that, it's nicer looking >.> Ty (edited)
MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2022-04-01 21:12
nicer looking
Might/could make a layout customization to reflect what you like about Emo’s layout.
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You are right, wish EmoSaru's worked for that, it's nicer looking >.> Ty (edited)
Nicholas Steel 2022-04-01 22:34
@MrKarato What's bad about it's appearance specifically? Maybe there's a setting that can get it looking the way you'd like. Is it the black lines that concern you? (edited)
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Nicholas Steel
@MrKarato What's bad about it's appearance specifically? Maybe there's a setting that can get it looking the way you'd like. Is it the black lines that concern you? (edited)
MrKarato 2022-04-01 23:17
Yes, the lines XD
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Nicholas Steel 2022-04-01 23:30
That used to be easy to resolve with an override in his pack (just use the images from Emosaru's pack), in his recent overhaul it's become a lot more involved to override as the overworld images are now broken in to chunks with scripts used to arrange them. (edited)
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He's expressed he may add a setting to remove the black lines if there's enough interest.
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Yes, the lines XD
codemann8 2022-04-03 18:22
@Nicholas Steel also... see the latest update
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@Nicholas Steel also... see the latest update
MrKarato 2022-04-03 18:48
https://tenor.com/view/kevin-durant-real-mvp-you-the-real-gif-4088269
You the real MVP kevin durant
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@Nicholas Steel also... see the latest update
Nicholas Steel 2022-04-04 00:50
Very awesome, thanks a lot for doing this. (edited)
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ChaoticUnreal 2022-04-06 12:40
Are there any Final Fantasy 4 Free Enterprise packs that support autotracking (with QUsb2Snes)
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Are there any Final Fantasy 4 Free Enterprise packs that support autotracking (with QUsb2Snes)
MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2022-04-06 16:58
The pack author should’ve included a robot icon in the Package Manager if it supports auto-tracking.
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Skyy 2022-04-09 11:10
Question on alttp randomomizer autotracker. I'm using the Official ALTTPR Support standard map tracker, and QUsb2Snes as the connector, which I use for smz3 with no issues. But it's not tracking everything properly. It's missing items and locations and picking up some others. Is this normal? I know when I started smz3 I had a similar issue with the Emotracker connector not tracking things, which is why I changed to the QU. Is there a dif one that works best for just alttpr? TIA
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It'll pick up if I beat the dungeon and got the crystal/pendant just fine, but not mark items as collected if that helps.
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MeleeWizard 2022-04-09 11:15
The is a racing rule that forbids auto-tracking dungeon checks. Emosaru's pack abides by this.
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Skyy 2022-04-09 11:16
ooh, so it'll do overworld but not dungeons?
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MeleeWizard 2022-04-09 11:16
right
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Skyy 2022-04-09 11:16
ok, good to know thank you much
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MeleeWizard 2022-04-09 11:17
Codemann's pack has a option that removes that restriction
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Skyy 2022-04-09 11:29
I tried loading his but it crashed every time for some reason
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Nicholas Steel 2022-04-10 05:52
Actual crash or just a prompt asking if you'd like to keep waiting for the program to become responsive?
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Skyy 2022-04-10 07:49
Actual crash, Emotracker goes non-responsive and needs to shut down.
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Actual crash, Emotracker goes non-responsive and needs to shut down.
MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2022-04-10 07:53
What version of EmoTracker? What version of CodeTracker?
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Skyy 2022-04-10 09:43
It doesn't say it needs any updates on the codetracker, so I imagine it's the most up to date version. Not sure where to check an actual version number.
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And this is the message I get when I try to load it:
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It doesn't say it needs any updates on the codetracker, so I imagine it's the most up to date version. Not sure where to check an actual version number.
MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2022-04-10 09:51
Did you try uninstalling and reinstalling the CodeTracker pack?
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Spleebie 2022-04-10 09:52
The pack takes quite a while to load. Click on "wait for the program to respond" and then wait
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MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2022-04-10 09:53
I wonder if there’s some overrides that may be conflicting (if they got that far).
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Spleebie 2022-04-10 09:53
Don't interact with the emotracker window while it's loading
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MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2022-04-10 09:54
CodeTracker may still chew on some tasty RAM chips for that first load. Maybe it gets easier after that initial run.
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And this is the message I get when I try to load it:
Nicholas Steel 2022-04-10 09:59
That's... the prompt I referred to when saying "or just a prompt asking if you'd like to keep waiting for the program to become responsive?"
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That specific prompt does not mean the program has crashed, it only means Windows is unable to discern if the program is doing anything. Programs usually keep loading when you click the option to keep waiting, the application will remain faded white until Windows can ascertain the program is alive (usually when the program finishes the strenuous task it was doing). (edited)
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Skyy 2022-04-10 10:56
I just re-installed, will give it more time and see if it loads
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Skyy 2022-04-10 11:24
It did load, but took around 5-6 minutes or so
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Nicholas Steel
Guide to Autotracker Setup (Snes9x-nwa) - Download the latest QUSB2SNES "asset" from https://github.com/Skarsnik/QUsb2snes/releases (8~MB 7z file for Windows, 22MB dmg file for Macintosh). - Download the latest snes9x-1.60-nwa "asset" from https://github.com/Skarsnik/snes9x-emunwa/releases (2.6~MB 7z file). - Extract the snes9x-1.60-nwa emulator and associated files into a new folder. - Extract QUSB2SNES and associated files into a new folder. - If the above files can't be opened/extracted than download & install 7zip from https://www.7-zip.org/download.html Now that you've extracted everything necessary: - Open Emotracker with a package that supports autotracking. Right click on the robot in the bottom right corner and set it to "SD2SNES", then start the autotracking. (it'll come up yellow, that's okay) - Open QUSB2SNES, you'll notice an icon appear in the right side of the Taskbar indicating the program is running. If this is your first time using this program you will need to configure some settings: Right-click the application icon in the Taskbar and in the Devices menu enable "EmuNetworkAccess" and "SD2SNES". - Open snes9x-nwa and start the game, then on the menu bar click Netplay > Enable Emu Network Control. This may trigger an alert from QUSB2SNES and your Firewall asking for permission to connect, click Yes/Allow. - If everything is working correctly the Autotracking icon in Emotracker will change from yellow, to cyan. Cyan means the connection between the emulator and Emotracker has been successfully established. - Enjoy playing your game while Emotracker tracks what you're doing in the game. Note: If you intend to run LUA scripts, you'll instead want to follow these instructions: https://discord.com/channels/386961931988369418/549484120263229441/558379221609873422 (edited)
Montii 2022-04-13 06:25
so i'm using this auto tracker and everything works alright except one thing and idk if it's normal or not
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i've been using lttp for it and it detects every item i collect except the items in dungeons
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is that normal?
06:28
same with the escape sequence
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is that normal?
MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2022-04-13 06:30
Yes. I need to write up a #faq for this.
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MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge
Yes. I need to write up a #faq for this.
MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2022-04-13 06:32
Top 📌 message in #general-support .
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Montii 2022-04-13 06:35
if i use another pack will the autotracker still work?
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or does it work only for the official pack
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if i use another pack will the autotracker still work?
MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2022-04-13 07:18
Autotracking support is on a per-pack basis. Check for the blue robot in the Package Manager listing.
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Montii 2022-04-13 07:18
i noticed a few mins ago thank you for the help (edited)
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Montii 2022-04-15 05:39
i saw link's awakening has a auto tracker where can i find a guide for how to set it up? i didn't see any information on it in pinned messages
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TarThoron 2022-04-15 07:29
Really? Because the pins are nothing but how to set up autotracking on various emulators/hardware.
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TarThoron 2022-04-15 08:47
Oh, Link's Awakening = Game Boy. That's not in the pins. Pretty sure it's similar to NES, in that you need a Bizhawk that supports the included connector.lua, and then it's probably the default GB core. Run the .lua, right click the robot head and select Lua.
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Nicholas Steel 2022-04-15 22:15
@Montii see above.
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Däniel 2022-04-19 05:48
Hello everyone! I wanted to try the "Auto Pin Current Dungeon" and the other Auto Pin things with code tracker but theres alwas the error with the dev console. I looked at the github with the overrides but didnt understand how to get this to work andyHide
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Hello everyone! I wanted to try the "Auto Pin Current Dungeon" and the other Auto Pin things with code tracker but theres alwas the error with the dev console. I looked at the github with the overrides but didnt understand how to get this to work andyHide
Nicholas Steel 2022-04-19 08:57
Navigate to %userprofile%\Documents\EmoTracker\user_overrides\ and create a folder called alttpr_codetracker_codemann8 and then within that folder another one called Settings. Restart Emotracker. If the error persists, copy or screenshot the console log that you can access in Emotracker. Alternatively export a Settings file override. (edited)
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Cheify 2022-04-24 10:45
Im having an issue idk the cause but whenever I try to set the auto tracking to sd2snes the whole program just freezes
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Im having an issue idk the cause but whenever I try to set the auto tracking to sd2snes the whole program just freezes
MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2022-04-24 10:57
Are you trying to connect it to an sd2snes device?
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Cheify 2022-04-24 11:14
my snes classic, i have it set up in qusb2snes and it kinda worked then it just started freezing (edited)
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EmoSaru 2022-04-24 11:25
The connection process is unfortunately synchronous in the underlying library I use, so it may pause for a few seconds while it connects. That said, if it doesn’t come back, it means there’s an issue on your qusb2snes/snes classic side. (edited)
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my snes classic, i have it set up in qusb2snes and it kinda worked then it just started freezing (edited)
MikeTrethewey | Axiom Verge 2022-04-24 13:31
I’ll see if I can crack that with my SNES Classic. No estimate on timeframe though. Darn employment getting in the way of playtesting.
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Ocean Prince 2022-04-26 06:01
Some issues I have been encountering with AutoTracker: You must use BSNES Core. SNES9x Core will fail with a "Read a NIL Value" message. I, wish the Lua Script Warned me about that. But, it works once I did that change. I also had to set BizHawk to use Lua+LuaInterface. But the Script warned me about that not being set. Crowd Control itself, does suggest BizHawk 2.6.1 while the LUA Connector only works/supports 2.3.0 and 2.3.1 https://crowdcontrol.live/guides/Zelda3Randomizer Is there a way to get the Auto Tracker to Support a Newer BizHawk version? I am using EmoTracker 2.3.8.16 And latest EmoTracker Official ALTTP Support package.
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TarThoron 2022-04-26 08:25
First line of the Bizhawk instructions says "Autotracking only works with BSNES core." The connector lua that comes with EmoTracker works with versions up to 2.4.2., even though the error message only mentions 2.3.x., and official support only covers that script. If you get the Crowd Control SDK and use that script, you can use 2.6.1. EmoSaru has repeatedly said that she no longer wishes to work with the Crowd Control people, and that method of connecting will be replaced rather than updated. While currently not officially supported, the best workaround is to get qusb2snes or SNI, which each come with their own connection scripts. Connect Bizhawk to whichever of those you use, and tell EmoTracker to read sd2snes, which is the protocol those programs emulate. This should work with any Bizhawk version, and potentially other cores, though BSNES is still recommended.
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TarThoron
First line of the Bizhawk instructions says "Autotracking only works with BSNES core." The connector lua that comes with EmoTracker works with versions up to 2.4.2., even though the error message only mentions 2.3.x., and official support only covers that script. If you get the Crowd Control SDK and use that script, you can use 2.6.1. EmoSaru has repeatedly said that she no longer wishes to work with the Crowd Control people, and that method of connecting will be replaced rather than updated. While currently not officially supported, the best workaround is to get qusb2snes or SNI, which each come with their own connection scripts. Connect Bizhawk to whichever of those you use, and tell EmoTracker to read sd2snes, which is the protocol those programs emulate. This should work with any Bizhawk version, and potentially other cores, though BSNES is still recommended.
Ocean Prince 2022-04-26 14:45
What I was probably missing the most, was BSNES Core. SMH Been a while since I used BizHawk. Lots of new Updates and stuff now though.
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TarThoron
First line of the Bizhawk instructions says "Autotracking only works with BSNES core." The connector lua that comes with EmoTracker works with versions up to 2.4.2., even though the error message only mentions 2.3.x., and official support only covers that script. If you get the Crowd Control SDK and use that script, you can use 2.6.1. EmoSaru has repeatedly said that she no longer wishes to work with the Crowd Control people, and that method of connecting will be replaced rather than updated. While currently not officially supported, the best workaround is to get qusb2snes or SNI, which each come with their own connection scripts. Connect Bizhawk to whichever of those you use, and tell EmoTracker to read sd2snes, which is the protocol those programs emulate. This should work with any Bizhawk version, and potentially other cores, though BSNES is still recommended.
Ocean Prince 2022-04-26 20:55
This worked out for me. Thank you.
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Elliot (FREE SPACE) 👑 2022-04-28 22:43
any hope of this working with bizhawk 2.8 or is it only for older versions?
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Elliot (FREE SPACE) 👑
any hope of this working with bizhawk 2.8 or is it only for older versions?
TarThoron 2022-04-29 10:06
Literally answered that in my previous post ☝️
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Elliot (FREE SPACE) 👑 2022-04-29 10:09
sounds complicated bro
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TarThoron 2022-04-29 10:15
Bizhawk is in general.
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Three11s12 2022-05-09 16:56
Does the Official Package, Standard Map Tracker support dungeon chests? It seems like it doesn't mark dungeons complete for me even though I'm pretty sure I got all the chests?
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The auto-tracker that is.
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PolychromeVirus 2022-05-09 17:09
it does not, its not race legal to auto track dungeon chests (edited)
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Three11s12 2022-05-09 17:13
Ahh, gotcha. Okie dokes. Thanks!
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TarThoron
First line of the Bizhawk instructions says "Autotracking only works with BSNES core." The connector lua that comes with EmoTracker works with versions up to 2.4.2., even though the error message only mentions 2.3.x., and official support only covers that script. If you get the Crowd Control SDK and use that script, you can use 2.6.1. EmoSaru has repeatedly said that she no longer wishes to work with the Crowd Control people, and that method of connecting will be replaced rather than updated. While currently not officially supported, the best workaround is to get qusb2snes or SNI, which each come with their own connection scripts. Connect Bizhawk to whichever of those you use, and tell EmoTracker to read sd2snes, which is the protocol those programs emulate. This should work with any Bizhawk version, and potentially other cores, though BSNES is still recommended.
Just BorB 2022-05-14 07:09
thanks a lot. that helped me
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TBlick05 2022-05-14 07:20
Hey Everyone, I just tried to run the autotracker after months of not using it, I keep getting the crowd control error for the autotracking. I have uninstalled and re-installed to the most up to date versions of each. 2.3.8.16 EmoTracker and 2.8 BizHawk. I am not trying to do CC or anything, just want the autotracking to play some ALTTPR seeds. Thanks in advance for any advice/help. I am sorry if this has been asked before, I have not been able to find anything in recent messages.
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MeleeWizard 2022-05-14 07:28
The output window clearly says which versions of BizHawk are supported.
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Hey Everyone, I just tried to run the autotracker after months of not using it, I keep getting the crowd control error for the autotracking. I have uninstalled and re-installed to the most up to date versions of each. 2.3.8.16 EmoTracker and 2.8 BizHawk. I am not trying to do CC or anything, just want the autotracking to play some ALTTPR seeds. Thanks in advance for any advice/help. I am sorry if this has been asked before, I have not been able to find anything in recent messages.
Just BorB 2022-05-14 08:13
TarThoron answered that question. Scroll a bit upwards
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FirstOriginalOGSteve2 2022-05-14 16:02
Does autotracking not work on Snes9x-rr version 1.6.0? Will using v1.54 will get rid of the "error loading module 'socket.core' from file '.\socket.dll': %1 is not a valid Win32 application" error? I've already made sure I have the x64 version of snes9x-rr on an x64 machine (edited)
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EmoSaru 2022-05-14 16:27
Your issue is actually that you need to use the 32 bit version due to the 32 bit Lua module being loaded
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Chaia Eran 2022-05-18 20:04
Are there plans in the future to support BizHawk 2.8?
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TarThoron 2022-05-18 20:12
You can use Bizhawk 2.8 (or any other version) if you use qusb2snes or SNI to emulate the sd2snes protocol, rather than connecting directly to EmoTracker. If the folks at Crowd Control update thier connector.lua to work with 2.8, it should also work for EmoTracker. Right now they only support up to 2.6.1. But until further notice the only officially supported method is the connector.lua that comes packaged with EmoTracker, which only supports up to 2.4.2.
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Chaia Eran 2022-05-18 20:12
Does that work with the GBA core?
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TarThoron 2022-05-18 20:14
GBA core (or any non-SNES core) is limited to the connector.lua. The above comments on supported versions still stands. (edited)
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Chaia Eran 2022-05-18 20:15
Alright, thanks!
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ScorelessPine 2022-05-20 16:31
Ah, reading the above, that kind of sucks because I've never been able to get background input to work on bizhawk 2.4 for my xbox controller, even with the setting on it always stops input on tab out.
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Ah, actually wait a second, over on forum.warp.world, they claim to support bizhawk 2.8 and have a link to it under "emulator support" here: https://forum.warp.world/t/how-to-setup-and-use-the-crowd-control-sdk/5121
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Is there a disconnect between what they claim to support and what the connector actually works for? Or do they actually support it now and the news just hasnt traveled?
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May 11th, 2022
Oh, so it seems it has, but it's relatively new
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Is there a disconnect between what they claim to support and what the connector actually works for? Or do they actually support it now and the news just hasnt traveled?
cluekitty 2022-05-20 16:44
The script included with emotracker is just what will officially be supported in this discord. If you can get a newer version working on your own, it may work, but forward compatibility isn't guaranteed by Emotracker if Crowd Control changes something on their side.
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That is, unless EmoSaru decides to include that forward compatibility on a future update.
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ScorelessPine 2022-05-20 16:45
True and I understand that, however tarthoron's comment of "If the folks at Crowd Control update thier connector.lua to work with 2.8, it should also work for EmoTracker. Right now they only support up to 2.6.1." i noticed and was curious to look into because the last i heard of it was also that they only supported 2.6.1
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Or 2.4.2, i forget which was the one i last saw them support
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cluekitty 2022-05-20 16:46
Well, I'd say just try it out. I haven't checked CC's website/sdk in a while so if they added future support then cool.
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ScorelessPine 2022-05-20 16:47
Yeah i downloaded it, just wasnt sure where to find the connector after installing
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currently working on that part
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TarThoron 2022-05-20 16:48
Yeah, last time I looked at that page, which was about a month ago, it said 2.6.1. Looks like they've updated.
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ScorelessPine 2022-05-20 16:49
I wouldnt have expected a change either tbh, it was on an outdated version a few times in a row when i looked
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cluekitty 2022-05-20 16:49
iirc, when I last downloaded the 2.6.1 scripts, they were in a folder called ConnectorScripts in the zip file (edited)
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ScorelessPine 2022-05-20 16:50
Mostly was looking in the past while trying to get some ladxr multiworld working with auto tracking, which was a while ago admittedly
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iirc, when I last downloaded the 2.6.1 scripts, they were in a folder called ConnectorScripts in the zip file (edited)
ScorelessPine 2022-05-20 16:51
when i last downloaded the 2.6.1 scripts
Where can i find the scripts at? The only CC download i knew of was the all in one installer
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cluekitty 2022-05-20 16:51
You'll want to find their SDK
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ScorelessPine 2022-05-20 16:51
Ah ok
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literally the page i linked, got it
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i should have read further
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TarThoron 2022-05-20 16:51
And yeah, download the SDK, unzip, and then it's just one folder down.
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ScorelessPine 2022-05-20 16:54
Hm, the script still claims needing 2.6
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TarThoron 2022-05-20 16:56
Might need the .dlls from the above folder. Looks like the lua script is still from 2020.
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ScorelessPine 2022-05-20 16:59
Not sure what I'd do with them?
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Throwing them all in the dlls folder didnt seem to change anything (though replacing the 5 commonly-named files stopped it from opening, but overwriting them back fixed that)
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Probably something i can take to the CC discord actually. Ill see what info i can get there
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cluekitty 2022-05-20 17:02
That would probably be best. a quick check of the newest download and my old download shows that the files aren't actually different.
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so it might just be a technicality that it works with 2.8
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ScorelessPine 2022-05-20 17:12
I posted the question in there and ill wait for a response, but i wonder if it's just that the whole of CC's stuff works with bizhawk 2.8 but they just havent updated the sdk? People are saying that it's working on 2.8 but theyre obviously talking about having set it all up through crowd control rather than downloading the sdk
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ScorelessPine 2022-05-20 17:34
Ok I found the files, apparently theyre stored in appdata/local/programs/CrowdControl if you have CC installed. Doing a comparison on all the files, theyre literally the same except for hal.lua's version check and an extra explainCore.lua which is literally just this
event.unregisterbyname("connectorlib") console.clear() print(memory.getmemorydomainlist()) print(gameinfo.getromname())
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Sooo unless something was done elsewhere, the CC connector files havent changed at all
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Guess ill just keep on trucking with this minish cap seed i was gonna play and pop in if anything breaks
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EmoSaru
Your issue is actually that you need to use the 32 bit version due to the 32 bit Lua module being loaded
confuseousprime 2022-06-02 07:47
just wanted to pop in and say thank you, this helped me figure out what I was doing wrong. 🎉
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DeepFried87 2022-06-03 18:21
greetings, trying to get emo tracker to work with my snes classic and struggling, i get here
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and it wont connect i downloaded Qsnes and thought i got the correct hmod into my hakchi but i'm not sure exactly what to do
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TarThoron 2022-06-03 18:35
Have you installed Hakchi2 CE on your Classic?
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And did you have any other version of Hakchi installed before this?
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S.C.M.R. 2022-06-04 10:54
so i downloaded qusb2snes so i can use the autotracker and when i selected emulator with nwa support i got these error messages
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TarThoron 2022-06-04 10:55
Try restarting your computer and trying again. Chances are you have multiple instances if something running.
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S.C.M.R. 2022-06-04 11:21
ok i didnt get an error from there but now the robot is red
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i think it has something to do with the ports for netplay but i dont remember what the default is
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its 8080 isnt it
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also i need the host name
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S.C.M.R. 2022-06-04 11:36
nvm i think it works
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Squidkid 2022-06-04 15:53
I am trying to connect emotracker for a lttp randomizer. But whenever I try to connect them I get this error
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error loading module 'socket.core' from file '.\socket.dll': %1 is not a valid Win32 application.
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I am on x64 windows
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TarThoron 2022-06-04 15:59
You still need to use the 32bit snes9x-rr.
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Squidkid 2022-06-04 16:00
ok
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that helps
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thank you
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